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It works rather well for JavaScript in web browsers. I think that is the most interesting "mobile code" platform to review as a starting point. On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 2:54 PM, "Micha=C5=82 K=C5=82eczek (XPro Sp. z o. o.= )" < michal.kleczek@xpro.biz> wrote: > Are you opposing the whole idea of sending data and code (or instructions > how to download it) bundled together? (the spec) > Or just the way how it is done in Java today. (the impl) > > If it is the first - we are in an absolute disagreement. > If the second - I agree wholeheartedly. > > Thanks, > Michal > > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > >> FYI in case you didn't know; Jackson ObjectMapper takes a POJO structure >> and creates a (for instance) JSON document, or the other way around. It = is >> not meant for "any object to binary and back". >> My point was, Java Serialization (and by extension JERI) has a scope tha= t >> is possibly wrongly defined in the first place. More constraints back th= en >> might have been a good thing... >> >> >> > --=20 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java --001a113b0a3871ca250547b0d57d--