Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-river-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-river-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21ACD180CC for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 00:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47508 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2015 00:00:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-river-dev-archive@river.apache.org Received: (qmail 47489 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2015 00:00:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@river.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@river.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@river.apache.org Received: (qmail 47312 invoked by uid 99); 14 Nov 2015 00:00:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 00:00:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id A007EC1726; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 23:59:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.745 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.745 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, MISSING_MIMEOLE=1.843, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=zeus.net.au Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hl7v0Km3Y-gN; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webcloud66.au.syrahost.com (server-1o-r58.ipv4.au.syrahost.com [103.226.222.60]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 6CADE203C1; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 23:59:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zeus.net.au; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:cc:To:Subject:From:Date; bh=WRjWfUXE5qPEfANVpJNh0JW/R8xecHclR6Mtjq/dj/E=; b=v+j2d9DR2KPWnp8/hNqHGGSK6CvRPITEYyQGbj1ja2MSkxMOzJH/9olw+eh+8eBNWqj8swyj9dz2dj67oZu9SA3XtE3erUEjp1d3XygUCqCXMjelmVFGuhhD0b0o2LRZNpjStTGJlKDJ5plr6ygGU+0g4If/JP6v4dWkMaeHnmE=; Received: from pa49-182-18-233.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au ([49.182.18.233]:7444 helo=[10.68.186.70]) by webcloud66.au.syrahost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxOF9-0009zy-6u; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:59:07 +0800 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:58:40 +1000 (AEST) From: Peter Subject: Re: [Discuss] Drop support for Activation? To: "," cc: "user@river.apache.org" Message-ID: <6c1260fc0d9b3b8ba8cb992a73a502f0@org.tizen.email> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="8323328-859544148-1447459120=:1260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - webcloud66.au.syrahost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - river.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zeus.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: webcloud66.au.syrahost.com: authenticated_id: jini@zeus.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --8323328-859544148-1447459120=:1260 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I'd like to propose Removing it from River and placing it into a separate m= odule or subproject.=0A=0AI'd like to see this done as part of the modular = build effort.=0A=0AI think this should be part of River 3.1=0A=0ARegards,= =0A=0APeter.=0A=0ASent from my Samsung device.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0Include origin= al message=0A---- Original message ----=0AFrom: Greg Trasuk =0ASent: 14/11/2015 01:21:47 am=0ATo: dev@river.apache.org=0ACc: user@= river.apache.org=0ASubject: [Discuss] Drop support for Activation?=0A=0AHel= lo=C2=A0all: =0A=0ALast=C2=A0week=C2=A0I=C2=A0asked=C2=A0about=C2=A0removin= g=C2=A0activation=C2=A0from=C2=A0River,=C2=A0both=C2=A0the=C2=A02.2=C2=A0an= d=C2=A03.0=C2=A0branches.=C2=A0=C2=A0There=C2=A0didn=E2=80=99t=C2=A0seem=C2= =A0to=C2=A0be=C2=A0a=C2=A0lot=C2=A0of=C2=A0anti-removal=C2=A0feeling,=C2=A0= so=C2=A0I=E2=80=99d=C2=A0like=C2=A0to=C2=A0formally=C2=A0propose=C2=A0remov= ing=C2=A0Activation.=C2=A0=C2=A0There=C2=A0are=C2=A0a=C2=A0couple=C2=A0of= =C2=A0other=C2=A0things=C2=A0that=C2=A0we=C2=A0could=C2=A0possibly=C2=A0rem= ove,=C2=A0like=C2=A0JRMP=C2=A0support=C2=A0(i.e.=C2=A0pre-compiled=C2=A0pro= xy=C2=A0classes),=C2=A0but=C2=A0we=C2=A0should=C2=A0probably=C2=A0discuss= =C2=A0those=C2=A0separately. =0A=0AThe=C2=A0main=C2=A0reason=C2=A0for=C2=A0= this=C2=A0is=C2=A0that=C2=A0unused=C2=A0code=C2=A0still=C2=A0requires=C2=A0= maintenance=C2=A0and=C2=A0increases=C2=A0the=C2=A0chance=C2=A0of=C2=A0bugs.=C2=A0=C2=A0Also=C2=A0I=C2=A0think=C2=A0that= =C2=A0as=C2=A0we=C2=A0go=C2=A0forward=C2=A0with=C2=A0refactoring,=C2=A0rena= ming,=C2=A0restructuring=C2=A0the=C2=A0build=C2=A0and=C2=A0so=C2=A0on,=C2= =A0it=C2=A0seems=C2=A0wasteful=C2=A0to=C2=A0do=C2=A0that=C2=A0work=C2=A0on= =C2=A0code=C2=A0that=C2=A0isn=E2=80=99t=C2=A0actually=C2=A0in=C2=A0use. =0A= =0AObviously,=C2=A0the=C2=A0code=C2=A0remains=C2=A0in=C2=A0Subversion=C2=A0= and=C2=A0in=C2=A0the=C2=A02.2.2=C2=A0release,=C2=A0so=C2=A0if=C2=A0someone= =C2=A0wants=C2=A0to=C2=A0get=C2=A0it=C2=A0back,=C2=A0we=C2=A0(or=C2=A0they)= =C2=A0could=C2=A0package=C2=A0it=C2=A0into=C2=A0a=C2=A0different=C2=A0deliv= erable.=C2=A0=C2=A0But=C2=A0I=C2=A0wouldn=E2=80=99t=C2=A0plan=C2=A0on=C2=A0= doing=C2=A0that=C2=A0unless=C2=A0there=E2=80=99s=C2=A0actual=C2=A0demand=C2= =A0for=C2=A0it. =0A=0AMy=C2=A0thought=C2=A0is=C2=A0to=C2=A0put=C2=A0this=C2= =A0out=C2=A0there=C2=A0for=C2=A0discussion=C2=A0-=C2=A0If=C2=A0there=C2=A0i= s=C2=A0consensus=C2=A0after=C2=A0a=C2=A0few=C2=A0days=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ll=C2= =A0call=C2=A0a=C2=A0lazy-consensus=C2=A0vote.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ll= =C2=A0be=C2=A0happy=C2=A0to=C2=A0do=C2=A0the=C2=A0work=C2=A0in=C2=A0the=C2= =A02.2=C2=A0branch. =0A=0ASo,=C2=A0I=C2=A0propose=C2=A0to=C2=A0drop=C2=A0su= pport=C2=A0for=C2=A0the=C2=A0following: =0A=0AActivation=C2=A0-=C2=A0 =0A= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.phoenix.* =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0com.sun.jini.phoenix.resources.* =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0net.jini.= activation.* =0A=0ANorm=C2=A0/=C2=A0LeaseRenewalService=C2=A0-=C2=A0is=C2= =A0pretty=C2=A0much=C2=A0unneeded=C2=A0without=C2=A0activation =0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.norm.** =0A=0AActivatable=C2=A0implementation=C2=A0of=C2=A0the=C2=A0infrastructure=C2= =A0services =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.fiddler.ActivatableFidd= lerImpl =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.mahalo.ActivatableMahaloImp= l =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.mercury.ActivatableMercuryImpl = =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.reggie.PersistentRegistrarImpl =0A= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AStarter=C2=A0for=C2=A0Activatable=C2=A0Services= =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.start.ActivateWrapper =0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.start.SharedActivatableServiceDescriptor =0A=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0com.sun.jini.start.SharedGroupImpl =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =0AQA=C2=A0Harness=C2=A0classes=C2=A0that=C2=A0test=C2=A0any=C2= =A0of=C2=A0the=C2=A0above. =0A=0A=0ACheers, =0A=0AGreg=C2=A0Trasuk =0A=0A --8323328-859544148-1447459120=:1260--