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From Simon IJskes - QCG <si...@qcg.nl>
Subject Re: WOT: trust bootstrapping
Date Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:55:31 GMT
On 29-12-11 02:16, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Interesting, we could explore different trust models, like pgp's web of
> trust, perhaps even using the pgp public key servers. Or perhaps a multi
> referral trust model: ask others we trust if they know and trust the new
> party. In any case I'd like to avoid the CertificateAuthority model.

I would like to avoid the CertificateAuthority model as well. The PGP 
introducer model has similarities to the CertificateAuthority model.

So the most basic scenary would be the totally isolated bootstrap of 
ones own identity, meaning a self signed certificate. The first 
'problem' area would be the TLS handshake, which verifies the cert in a 
X509TrustManager. This trustmanager needs to let through the self signed 
ceritificates, the default doesn't. Current the trustmanager is 
jini-system-wide maybe this is something that should be changed into 
thread / connection / ClientSubject oriented.

One could have the trustmanager offer the unknown certificate for 
acceptance to the user, in order to allow authentication via external 

This would be a better way of exchanging certs, than exchanging them in 
plaintext communications, because (this need verification) the certs are 
exchanged end-to-end encrypted, so no identity is exposed to third parties.

> Cheers,
> Peter.
> Simon IJskes - QCG wrote:
>> Some notes:
>> * the most basic trust bootstrap is generating a local priv/pub
>> keypair for your own identity, so without introducer.
>> * in this case, verification occurs outside the scope of river.
>> * in order to exchange unknown public keys with TLS, we need a key
>> collecting X509TrustManager, inserted into river via the
>> com.sun.jini.jeri.ssl.trustManagerFactoryAlgorithm property.
>> Comments? Additions?
>> Gr. Sim

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