Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 31183 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2010 03:05:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 15 Nov 2010 03:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 90582 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2010 03:05:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90562 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2010 03:05:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact river-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list river-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 90554 invoked by uid 99); 15 Nov 2010 03:05:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:05:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of pats@acm.org designates 209.86.89.64 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.86.89.64] (HELO elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.64) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:05:27 +0000 Received: from [70.230.203.59] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PHpNS-0000ji-Qm for river-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4CE0A35D.2010100@acm.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:05:01 -0800 From: Patricia Shanahan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Graduation - Was Re: Praise for River Development team References: <4CCB81E6.8000705@zeus.net.au> <4CCBBD0A.7070500@zeus.net.au> <4CCCFD43.6010609@acm.org> <4CDE8D77.2040605@qcg.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a090983a806273c061ba25959e76cc985338a7d01cb3b6a7e972de0d01da94060608a6a686e7c4ed227a612404d1208350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.230.203.59 Jukka Zitting wrote: ... > One thing I'd like to see before graduation is a clear roadmap for > when and how River will be migrating from com.sun (and com.artima) > packages to org.apache. Even better (but not necessary) if this > migration could be done before graduation. ... The difficult part of this is deciding how to handle it in terms of releases. We are well on the way to a bug fix release that should be able to run all categories of QA test. Do we want to combine the package name change with that, or do it as a separate release? My initial feeling is to keep them separate, and do the bug fix release first. The bug fix release is not a comparability issue. There have been some indications that some com.sun.jini classes are being used in user code, so the package name change may have more impact on users. The actual mechanics of renaming packages while preserving the history is a job for an IDE. In the past, I've done it using Eclipse with one of the subversion plug-ins. Patricia