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From: Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:00:33 +0800
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Subject: Re: Java package names
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I think this kind of report is excellent, and I think many of us
recall that some classes (e.g. JoinManager) were similarly 'promoted'
from com.sun.jini to net.jini in the early days. Since 'renaming' is
partly incompatible, it is a good opportunity to look over these kind
of changes at the same time.

Cheers
Niclas

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Dolan
<christopher.dolan@avid.com> wrote:
> It turns out that I overstated my case, so I withdraw my negative vote. =
=A0I wrote my previous email before researching how extensively my code act=
ually uses the com.sun.jini.* classes. =A0It's not nearly as bad as I thoug=
ht -- I had misrecollected that some of the AbstractEntry subclasses were i=
n com.sun -- and some of it is just bad code in my project. =A0Anecdotally,=
 here are the classes my project currently uses (not including my unit test=
s, which dig deeper):
>
> import com.sun.jini.config.Config;
> import com.sun.jini.config.ConfigUtil;
> import com.sun.jini.landlord.Landlord;
> import com.sun.jini.landlord.LandlordLease;
> import com.sun.jini.landlord.LeaseFactory;
> import com.sun.jini.loader.pref.internal.PreferredResources;
> import com.sun.jini.logging.Levels;
> import com.sun.jini.thread.TaskManager.Task;
> import com.sun.jini.thread.TaskManager;
>
> I've been trying to refactor many of those out (like TaskManager), but so=
me of them are hard to avoid, especially the landlord classes and Levels. =
=A0PreferredResources, for example, is in my custom PreferredClassLoader im=
plementation.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:pats@acm.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:54 PM
> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Java package names
>
> This is troubling news. My proposed refactoring of TaskManager to enable
> performance tuning depends on the assumption that, as a com.sun.* class,
> it is only used within the project.
>
> In general, we will be severely limited in our ability to progress if we
> have to treat all public com.sun.* interfaces as external interfaces.
>
> Patricia
>
>
> Christopher Dolan wrote:
>> I vote against such an incompatible change. =A0There are a lot of
>> classes under there, for example com.sun.jini.thread.TaskManager,
>> that are utility code employed by downstream developers. =A0I think all
>> new code should go elsewhere if possible, but changing the existing
>> com.sun.jini packages would be hard on existing users.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Benson Margulies
>> [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:51
>> AM To: general@incubator.apache.org; river-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Java package names
>>
>> River imported packages of code from the original Sun grant under the
>> =A0name 'com.sun.whatever'.
>>
>> How important is it to change that?
>
>


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