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From Michael McGrady <mmcgr...@topiatechnology.com>
Subject Re: Split JavaSpaces and JINI
Date Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:46:40 GMT
If you think that planning, examining or even improving the structure  
or River in relation to its stakeholders is just "talk", or that high  
cohesion and low coupling just as much as good documentation and  
comprehensive testing are not values independent of needs and  
requirements of the stakeholders, then the future looks bleak.  I  
don't think you really want to take this tack.  I think we can say  
that certain things are bad whatever your requirements or needs.   
There are legitimate architectural standards, e.g., the ilities that  
have nothing to do with function.


On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Wade Chandler wrote:

> I think you'll find in any debate, more scientific in nature at  
> least, which by itself precludes politics :-D, devoid of words, and  
> more filled with examples of the thing being debated will be more  
> tolerable for those in the discussion. We can talk architecture all  
> day long, but without an understanding of exactly what you or we are  
> talking about, those pieces we are referring, and specifically what  
> River is, will be, and everyone's understanding of those things,  
> cohesion, decoupling, architecture (to a degree) are all irrelevant.  
> The needs and requirements and what that means at large are needed  
> first. The horse before the cart.
> Wade
> ==================
> Wade Chandler, CCE
> Software Engineer and Developer, Certified Forensic Computer  
> Examiner, NetBeans Dream Team Member, and NetBeans Board Member
> http://www.certified-computer-examiner.com
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/NetBeansDreamTeam
> http://www.netbeans.org

Michael McGrady
Senior Engineer
Topia Technology, Inc.

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