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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: What's up with River?
Date Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:38:12 GMT
Hi Dennis,

On Sep 3, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Dennis Reedy wrote:

> Hi Craig,
> Thanks for the reply. I was not aware that a member of the community  
> could move things forward, thats very interesting.

If a project loses steam (and committers) then it's entirely possible  
for the community that has a vested interest in the project to try to  
pick it up.
> Could the project (committers) provide some feedback on this?

That would be good.

> I had asked a similar question on AR2 (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200807.mbox/%3c9CE0773C-2DB8-46EB-BB33-1EC8DEA808D1@gmail.com%3e

> ) back on July 24th.
> Again, if there is something that I can help with, let me know

If you can take a more active role, I would encourage you to do so.  
Having a significant chunk of the committers leave is a blow, but it  
doesn't have to be fatal.

> Thanks and regards
> Dennis
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 740PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>> Hi Dennis,
>> It's good to see a community actively using the technology, with an  
>> interest in moving River forward.
>> The ability of River to graduate from incubation and server the  
>> wider community is dependent on folks to pick up the ball and run  
>> with it.
>> I don't follow River closely, but it appears that the code base is  
>> close to ready for release, and if that is the case, one of the  
>> committers should pick up the task and release the code.
>> If none of the committers is up to the task, then one of the  
>> community can do it. Let's see what the community response is.
>> Craig
>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Dennis Reedy wrote:
>>>>> I am ready and willing to jump in, I am sure there are others as  
>>>>> well.
>>>> cool
>>>> apache is often described as a do-ocracy: we get together to do  
>>>> stuff
>>>> - and the stuff we do is open source software :-)
>>>> one way to start kicking things off would be for people that have
>>>> energy to start throwing around ideas about directions and
>>>> developments that interest them
>>>> (hopefully other people will jump in with other suggestions about  
>>>> ways
>>>> to break the ice)
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> As a manner of introduction, I have been working with Jini  
>>> technology for almost a decade and direct the Rio project (https://www.rio-project.org

>>> ) that uses Jini technology for a number of key capabilities. I  
>>> have been in the "do" business for a number of years :)
>>> My concern with River is the inactivity and the eventual void that  
>>> will be left when the Sun committers move on. Mark Hodapp had  
>>> indicated that Sun's involvement is complete (see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200808.mbox/%3c69A8C8DA-ED4C-4D32-8C9A-60A477E1681D@sun.com%3e)

>>> , and my subsequent reply for status (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200808.mbox/%3c0B8DC774-E5D3-4F23-B80E-66409BCC0E6D@gmail.com%3e

>>> ) was left unanswered.
>>> With Bob Scheifler's last email I would think that the project  
>>> really needs to make a decision on how to move things forward. Its  
>>> not just about fixing the issues that are in Jira (there are quite  
>>> a few), but also a matter of relevance and visibility. Those of us  
>>> that latched on to Jini technology back when it started, and had  
>>> the opportunity to develop and deploy Jini technology based  
>>> systems certainly want to keep the River flowing (sorry).
>>> If I can be of help, please let me know.
>>> Regards
>>> Dennis
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ 
>> jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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