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From Holger Hoffstätte <hol...@wizards.de>
Subject Fwd: AR1 dead?
Date Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:26:53 GMT

Dear River devs -

I sent the folllowing on Sunday but so far it seems that I have either 
asked a really bonehead question or nobody is reading the user list..

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: AR1 dead?
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:46:10 +0100
From: Holger Hoffstätte <holger@wizards.de>
To: river-user@incubator.apache.org


Maybe I'm missing something but wasn't AR1 supposed to be "done" some
weeks ago? What happened to that release?

-------- Original Message --------

Can someone please comment? After reading Mark's board report I get the 
impression that this project is just as rudderless and comatose as it has 
been under Sun's "leadership", and it is not entirely clear (to me at 
least) why all the formal efforts of IP clearance, bug tracker migration 
etc. were done when nobody (well, almost) who was assigned as committer 
actually works on it. I noticed that there has recently been some activity 
in svn which is *great*, but I cannot believe that's all. There is tons of 
stuff to do - actually releasing AR1, triaging *and fixing* the existing 
bugs for AR2..n, a better/more scalable JavaSpaces persistence mechanism 
(didn't John McClain want to work on a JDBC/Derby backend?), more robust 
TX manager, Spring integration (transparent Jini assimilation?), maybe 
consolidating stuff from Seven, JSC, Rio.. the list is endless, not to 
mention a few whacky ideas I have myself.

Yes, I know what you're thinking: the Right Thing is to volunteer and "get 
cracking". The reality is that _nobody_ will (and apparently does not) 
participate in a project that has no driver or roadmap, but instead is 
just incompatibly fragmentated: GigaSpaces, Blitz, Newton, Rio - all 
separate efforts without any kind of coherent strategy left for River.

Does River/Jini have any actual stakeholders, drivers, interested parties? 
Or, to put it another way: what if it does not?


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