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From Frank Barnaby <Frank.Barn...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: AR1 dead?
Date Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:33:52 GMT

I can assure you that AR1 is not dead.  However, Jim H. will need to  
supply the remaining details regarding the release.


Frank


On Mar 11, 2008, at 16:26, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:

>
> Dear River devs -
>
> I sent the folllowing on Sunday but so far it seems that I have  
> either asked a really bonehead question or nobody is reading the  
> user list..
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: AR1 dead?
> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:46:10 +0100
> From: Holger Hoffstätte <holger@wizards.de>
> To: river-user@incubator.apache.org
>
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I'm missing something but wasn't AR1 supposed to be "done" some
> weeks ago? What happened to that release?
>
> thanks
> Holger
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Can someone please comment? After reading Mark's board report I get  
> the impression that this project is just as rudderless and comatose  
> as it has been under Sun's "leadership", and it is not entirely  
> clear (to me at least) why all the formal efforts of IP clearance,  
> bug tracker migration etc. were done when nobody (well, almost) who  
> was assigned as committer actually works on it. I noticed that there  
> has recently been some activity in svn which is *great*, but I  
> cannot believe that's all. There is tons of stuff to do - actually  
> releasing AR1, triaging *and fixing* the existing bugs for AR2..n, a  
> better/more scalable JavaSpaces persistence mechanism (didn't John  
> McClain want to work on a JDBC/Derby backend?), more robust TX  
> manager, Spring integration (transparent Jini assimilation?), maybe  
> consolidating stuff from Seven, JSC, Rio.. the list is endless, not  
> to mention a few whacky ideas I have myself.
>
> Yes, I know what you're thinking: the Right Thing is to volunteer  
> and "get cracking". The reality is that _nobody_ will (and  
> apparently does not) participate in a project that has no driver or  
> roadmap, but instead is just incompatibly fragmentated: GigaSpaces,  
> Blitz, Newton, Rio - all separate efforts without any kind of  
> coherent strategy left for River.
>
> Does River/Jini have any actual stakeholders, drivers, interested  
> parties? Or, to put it another way: what if it does not?
>
> Holger


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