Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 15150 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 17:24:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 17:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4281 invoked by uid 500); 5 Sep 2007 17:24:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4260 invoked by uid 500); 5 Sep 2007 17:24:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact river-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list river-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4246 invoked by uid 99); 5 Sep 2007 17:24:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:24:27 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of johnsarman@gmail.com designates 209.85.134.186 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.134.186] (HELO mu-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.134.186) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:24:25 +0000 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so2402066mue for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fztdTOMcJJCLpol6qANVWCRnuyEReYDYazBGp/5UO3F9ANF7QeqhtB1aeR6S6MZkW0JQ6N4a+NmHGd874usFnykXVNNpdaHBbmRjqWkVlJcfQoR8FzkcizHIADpciYf5yS0F6BZXs3KXfkAkEcjReUIvUE9k2pRyf1plCZIksMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iqtXyDZk5RbjVXslpU/TE89DTMy+TZQnG6SO2rDdjLyKD0TtcEMbPM/A7k33xhidQ8aq60VGWlE5ED/XiHFp/Bn84mtOFaoxpeWJDuiKqIvGVnyqEbGCwRmn7Wiriq4SgCeO6KVUDBb2WD0xQD7hnpRS2yk+e0k4Rco9hraGbZ8= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr161667bue.1189013042560; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.105.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:24:02 -0400 From: "John Sarman" To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: a potential "AR1" release In-Reply-To: <204bcc150709050922id9ac6a4m6e3ec36a0b634174@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_47028_9350115.1189013042346" References: <46CF4CE4.6030209@Sun.COM> <46CFD61F.1090106@dcrdev.demon.co.uk> <46D2E6EC.4030409@Sun.COM> <46D7191A.9010801@cox.net> <46D71A78.3030507@Sun.COM> <46D9728B.9020009@cox.net> <46DD0DAE.5030504@dcrdev.demon.co.uk> <56BF9EE3-9265-46C4-8BF5-7EBD1FCEADFF@sun.com> <204bcc150709050922id9ac6a4m6e3ec36a0b634174@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_47028_9350115.1189013042346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know that most would like to see River have a release, but has anybody discussed making the minimum required JRE 1.5. Jini alway craved the need for templates and Generics and the move to River would allow for just that. Just Curious about this, John Sarman On 9/5/07, Sean Landis wrote: > > Ok, this may be heretic to some...Given a choice, I'd much rather > prefer progress over backward compatibility. > > Sean > > On 9/4/07, Jim Hurley wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Dan Creswell wrote: > > > Gregg Wonderly wrote: > > >> Bob Scheifler wrote: > > >>> Gregg Wonderly wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Perhaps in view that jar layouts may change further, there might be > > >>>> an official directory of deprecated jars so that documentation and > > >>>> discussions can focus on the nature of those jars? > > >>> > > >>> Moving the existing deprecated jars (jini-core.jar, jini-ext.jar, > > >>> sdm-dl.jar, sun-util.jar) could break existing scripts/etc that > > >>> reference them, so if the desire is for AR1 to maintain maximum > > >>> compatibility, it would seem preferable to leave them where they > > >>> are. > > >> > > >> Your call, but my thoughts are that there will already be some > > >> changes > > >> involved in testing and integrating AR1, for many. So, having to > > >> change > > >> some referred to directory structures, etc, may not be a big impact > > >> overall. > > > > > > What do the rest of the user-base think about this? ^^^ > > > > > > How much backward compatibility does everybody expect in this first > > > release? > > > > > > Anybody out there? > > > > Hey Dan- > > > > My guess is that we haven't made enough substantive progress in this > > (River) project yet to attract Jini users to these mailing lists. We > > certainly > > have some (who seem to be generally lurking), but it will not be > > (IMHO) until > > we get out a release or two before 'users' will start to be very > > vocal on this > > list. > > > > It might be better to ask this at jini/javaspaces-users right now. > > > > My 2c. > > > > -Jim > > > ------=_Part_47028_9350115.1189013042346--