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From Dan Creswell <...@dcrdev.demon.co.uk>
Subject Re: a potential "AR1" release
Date Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:37:01 GMT
John Sarman wrote:
> I know that most would like to see River have a release, but has anybody
> discussed making the minimum required JRE 1.5.
> Jini alway craved the need for templates and Generics and the move to River
> would allow for just that.

That's been discussed over on Jini-Users a few times don't think there's
an agreed view (be worth checking through the archives).  I also think
this is probably to big of an issue to be considering for AR1 (which to
a reasonable degree is about us committers figuring out how to drive).

Might also be worth organizing some kind of canvas to find out what JDK
is in production around commercial Jini-user land.......

> Just Curious about this,

Curiosity is good (on the flip side, it's been known to kill the odd cat :)



> John Sarman
> On 9/5/07, Sean Landis <sean.landis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok, this may be heretic to some...Given a choice, I'd much rather
>> prefer progress over backward compatibility.
>> Sean
>> On 9/4/07, Jim Hurley <Jim.Hurley@sun.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 4, 2007, at 3:47 AM, Dan Creswell wrote:
>>>> Gregg Wonderly wrote:
>>>>> Bob Scheifler wrote:
>>>>>> Gregg Wonderly wrote:
>>>>>>> Perhaps in view that jar layouts may change further, there might
>>>>>>> an official directory of deprecated jars so that documentation
>>>>>>> discussions can focus on the nature of those jars?
>>>>>> Moving the existing deprecated jars (jini-core.jar, jini-ext.jar,
>>>>>> sdm-dl.jar, sun-util.jar) could break existing scripts/etc that
>>>>>> reference them, so if the desire is for AR1 to maintain maximum
>>>>>> compatibility, it would seem preferable to leave them where they
>>>>>> are.
>>>>> Your call, but my thoughts are that there will already be some
>>>>> changes
>>>>> involved in testing and integrating AR1, for many.  So, having to
>>>>> change
>>>>> some referred to directory structures, etc, may not be a big impact
>>>>> overall.
>>>> What do the rest of the user-base think about this? ^^^
>>>> How much backward compatibility does everybody expect in this first
>>>> release?
>>>> Anybody out there?
>>> Hey Dan-
>>> My guess is that we haven't made enough substantive progress in this
>>> (River) project yet to attract Jini users to these mailing lists.  We
>>> certainly
>>> have some (who seem to be generally lurking), but it will not be
>>> (IMHO) until
>>> we get out a release or two before 'users' will start to be very
>>> vocal on this
>>> list.
>>> It might be better to ask this at jini/javaspaces-users right now.
>>> My 2c.
>>> -Jim

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