Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 4548 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2007 04:02:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Feb 2007 04:02:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 49368 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2007 04:03:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-river-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 49299 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2007 04:03:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact river-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list river-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 49290 invoked by uid 99); 17 Feb 2007 04:03:02 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:03:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.98.36] (HELO brmea-mail-4.sun.com) (192.18.98.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:02:50 -0800 Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.108.183]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l1H42UtZ025193 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:02:30 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JDL00C019QVIP00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Jim.Hurley@Sun.COM) for river-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-65-96-154-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [65.96.154.251]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JDL00BDL9W4J500@mail-amer.sun.com> for river-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:03:30 -0500 From: Jim Hurley Subject: Re: Responsibilities of the PPMC In-reply-to: Sender: Jim.Hurley@Sun.COM To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <2D1BF888-EAB8-4D7E-BF79-02396721F521@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <40DE8093-26E7-4452-B196-435294AA794E@sun.com> <4BE156F4-A7BC-4EC5-94D1-7E8EC3E808F9@SUN.com> <45D56147.1010508@cheiron.org> <6E42EC23-8B66-4317-B27F-FBB377A18186@pobox.com> <45D58407.7030002@cheiron.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I am +1 for this position/proposal. Can others on the list please state your opinion (I think this will be a healthy activity for us). Geir - I am assuming that we're going to make initial committer list == initial PPMC, though. Cool with that? thanks -Jim On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:21 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Mark Brouwer wrote: > >> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> >>> My personal taste lately is a reasonably high bar for commit to >>> ensure working social and technical compatibility, and then >>> faster PMC. >> >> Given the nature of the ASF and the high quality and consistency >> of the >> codebase brought in I'm inclined to go for you personal taste. >> >> In theory it might be possible to come up with a completely different >> process that would be a better fit, but for me it will be a waste of >> time to start thinking of that and why not try something that has >> proven >> itself on a few occasions. > > But note that the bar isn't really that high overall - to me it's > more about social compatibility than technical prowess, because > someone who understands their limits, works well with others, and > is willing to learn is a treasure :) > > geir > >> -- >> Mark