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From: John Yang To: dev@reef.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c06c100b2c9de052f5fb065 --94eb2c06c100b2c9de052f5fb065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Markus, I like Option E. It's better to use as few words as possible and emphasize its role as a standard library. Thanks, John On Apr 1, 2016 6:58 AM, "Markus Weimer" wrote: > Hi, > > we frequently have the need to summarize REEF in a single sentence, e.g. > in our README.md, talk announcements, board reports etc. We have > iterated through many ways of doing that in the past. However, I think > it might help to drive some consensus around this. > > Our current README.md proclaims (Option A): > > Apache REEF=E2=84=A2 (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a >> scale-out computing fabric that simplifies the development of Big >> Data applications on top of resource managers (e.g., Apache YARN and >> Mesos). >> > > I don't think that is terribly accurate. Sergey suggested as part of > REEF-1252 to change it to something like (Option B): > > Apache REEF is a standard library for building distributed systems >> that simplifies the development of Big Data applications on top of >> resource managers (e.g., Apache Hadoop YARN and Apache Mesos). >> > > Our website suggests (Option C): > > REEF, the Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework, is our approach >> to simplify and unify the lower layers of big data systems on modern >> resource managers. >> > > > And the SIGMOD paper uses the following text in its abstract (Option D): > > This paper presents REEF, a development framework that provides a >> control-plane for scheduling and coordinating task-level (data-plane) >> work on cluster resources obtained from a Resource Manager. >> > > Of those, I like option B the best, but would propose a slight > simplification (Option E): > > Apache REEF is a standard library for building distributed >> applications on top of cluster resource managers (e.g., Apache Hadoop >> YARN and Apache Mesos). >> > > > What do you think? > > Markus > --94eb2c06c100b2c9de052f5fb065--