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From: Rob Godfrey <rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:10:29 +0100
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Hi Ram,

This page from the broker docs covers most aspects of memory configuration:

https://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-java-6.0.4/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Runtime-Memory.html

Hope this helps,
Rob

On 26 August 2016 at 20:49, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, i changed it to use Anonymous and its working now. Now i need some
> documents or suggestions on how to configure Mem settings and flow to disk
> settings in config.json
>
> Thanks,
> Ram
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Rob Godfrey <rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ram,
> >
> > I assume that you have configured port 5672 to use the Plain auth
> provider
> > (each port can only be associated with a single auth provider - you can
> add
> > other ports which use the a different auth provider).  The issue here is
> > that by default the Java Broker will not allow PLAIN SASL over a non-TLS
> > connection.  You can override this by changing the "secureOnlyMechanisms"
> > attribute of the (password) auth provider.  Setting this value to the
> empty
> > list within the password auth provider section
> >
> >             "secureOnlyMechanisms" : [ ],
> >
> > in your json config file, will mean than PLAIN will be offered as a
> > mechanism.
> >
> > Alternatively you can change your port configuration to use you anonymous
> > authentication provider, rather than the password provider.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On 26 August 2016 at 19:27, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > I have followed as you said and created a clean slate v6 broker and
> from
> > UI
> > > created two auth provides palin and anonimous but when i make this api
> > call
> > > i am getting different sasl list
> > >
> > >  curl -s http://localhost:10001/service/sasl
> > > {
> > >   "mechanisms" : [ "CRAM-MD5", "SCRAM-SHA-1", "SCRAM-SHA-256" ]
> > >
> > > and as you told you before my client is throwing this error, so client
> > has
> > > a logic to try Plain with user  guest first if it doesn't work then try
> > > anonymous. Since broker doesn't have any of those in its sasl list may
> be
> > > its not able to connect?
> > >
> > >
> > > url=amqp://guest:********@/?brokerlist='tcp://host:5672?
> > > connecttimeout='5000'&sasl_mechs='PLAIN''
> > > Not Connected. error Client and broker have no SASL mechanisms in
> common.
> > > Broker allows : CRAM-MD5 SCRAM-SHA-1 SCRAM-SHA-256 Client has :
> > [EXTERNAL,
> > > GSSAPI, SCRAM-SHA-256, SCRAM-SHA-1, CRAM-MD5-HASHED, CRAM-MD5, PLAIN,
> > > AMQPLAIN, ANONYMOUS, XOAUTH2] Client restricted itself to : PLAIN
> > > username=guest
> > >
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > url=amqp://guest:********@/?brokerlist='tcp://host:5672?
> > > connecttimeout='5000'&sasl_mechs='ANONYMOUS''
> > > Not Connected. error Client and broker have no SASL mechanisms in
> common.
> > > Broker allows : CRAM-MD5 SCRAM-SHA-1 SCRAM-SHA-256 Client has :
> > [EXTERNAL,
> > > GSSAPI, SCRAM-SHA-256, SCRAM-SHA-1, CRAM-MD5-HASHED, CRAM-MD5, PLAIN,
> > > AMQPLAIN, ANONYMOUS, XOAUTH2] Client restricted itself to : ANONYMOUS
> > > username=null
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ram
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:10 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Rob,
> > > >
> > > > I did not get chance to try v6, i will try and let you know.
> > > >
> > > > Ram
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Rob Godfrey <
> rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Ram,
> > > >>
> > > >> have you got v6 working now?  The memory settings for the broker
> > depend
> > > >> upon which version you are using.  For version 6 there is a
> > > comprehensive
> > > >> discussion on memory allocation settings in the manual:
> > > >> https://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-java-6.0.1/java-
> > > >> broker/book/Java-Broker-Runtime-Memory.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Versions prior to v6 use memory (and threads) very differently.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope this helps,
> > > >> Rob
> > > >>
> > > >> On 18 April 2016 at 22:09, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Rob,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > One more question in the same context, what are the recommended
> JVM
> > > >> > settings for java broker? i am using default "-Xmx1024m" its
> working
> > > >> fine
> > > >> > but i wanted to follow the best practices. Please advice.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Ram
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Rob Godfrey <
> > rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Ram,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Apologies, I've been having a few issues with my internet
> > provider.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Can you try setting up an entirely clean install of Qpid 6.0.1
> and
> > > >> > > configuring (through the UI) that to use ANONYMOUS, and then
> check
> > > >> your
> > > >> > > client can connect.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > This is what I did, and it works fine for me.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > For the rest of your requirements (like setting the log file
> > > location,
> > > >> > > etc.) you really want to be using version 6 or later.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > >> > > Rob
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 11 April 2016 at 22:44, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > rammohanganap@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I have tried with virtualhost config that you have provided
> but
> > i
> > > am
> > > >> > > still
> > > >> > > > getting connection error. I would like to make it work with
> 6.0*
> > > >> > version
> > > >> > > > but at this point i need 0.28 version to make working, so if
> you
> > > can
> > > >> > help
> > > >> > > > me to configure log location in 0.28 that would unblock me for
> > > now.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > Ram
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,845  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > > > ConnectionImpl.openConnection() : Error connecting to
> > Connection
> > > :
> > > >> 0
> > > >> > > Host =
> > > >> > > > localhost
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > url=amqp://guest:********@/?brokerlist='tcp://localhost:
> > > >> 5672?connecttimeout='5000'&sasl_mechs='PLAIN''
> > > >> > > > Not Connected. error Client and broker have no SASL mechanisms
> > in
> > > >> > common.
> > > >> > > > Broker allows : ANONYMOUS Client has : [EXTERNAL, GSSAPI,
> > > >> > > CRAM-MD5-HASHED,
> > > >> > > > CRAM-MD5, AMQPLAIN, PLAIN, ANONYMOUS] Client restricted itself
> > to
> > > :
> > > >> > PLAIN
> > > >> > > > username=guest
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,846  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > > > ConnectionImpl.verifyQueueAndExchange() : Error binding queue
> > > null
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,846  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > c.a.a.q.QueueBuilder -
> > > >> > > > QueueBuilder$1.execute() : Attempt to create exchange/queue
> > > >> > > > ax-ex-mxgroup001/ax-q-mxgroup001 failed.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,861  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 INFO
> > > >> > > c.a.a.q.QueueBuilder -
> > > >> > > > QueueBuilder$1.execute() : Creating exchange/queue
> > > >> > > > ax-ex-mxgroup001-dl/ax-q-mxgroup001-dl
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,867  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > > > ConnectionImpl.openConnection() : Error connecting to
> > Connection
> > > :
> > > >> 0
> > > >> > > Host =
> > > >> > > > localhost
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > url=amqp://guest:********@/?brokerlist='tcp://localhost:
> > > >> 5672?connecttimeout='5000'&sasl_mechs='ANONYMOUS''
> > > >> > > > Not Connected. error Unknown virtualhost '' username=null
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,870  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > > > ConnectionImpl.openConnection() : Error connecting to
> > Connection
> > > :
> > > >> 0
> > > >> > > Host =
> > > >> > > > localhost
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > url=amqp://guest:********@/?brokerlist='tcp://localhost:
> > > >> 5672?connecttimeout='5000'&sasl_mechs='PLAIN''
> > > >> > > > Not Connected. error Client and broker have no SASL mechanisms
> > in
> > > >> > common.
> > > >> > > > Broker allows : ANONYMOUS Client has : [EXTERNAL, GSSAPI,
> > > >> > > CRAM-MD5-HASHED,
> > > >> > > > CRAM-MD5, AMQPLAIN, PLAIN, ANONYMOUS] Client restricted itself
> > to
> > > :
> > > >> > PLAIN
> > > >> > > > username=guest
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2016-04-11 21:40:01,870  DelayedTaskExecutor-1 ERROR
> > > >> > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > > > ConnectionImpl.verifyQueueAndExchange() : Error binding queue
> > > null
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Rob Godfrey <
> > > >> rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi Ram,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > in 6.0.x the log file location can be changed directly
> through
> > > the
> > > >> > > config
> > > >> > > > > json - I really think we should first concentrate on getting
> > > that
> > > >> > > working
> > > >> > > > > for you.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I've verified that using the 6.0.x client and broker with a
> > URL
> > > >> > similar
> > > >> > > > to
> > > >> > > > > the one in your log file works for ANONYMOUS.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Looking at your error output again I notice that there seem
> > > >> actually
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > be
> > > >> > > > > two connection attempts, the first ends with:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > error Unknown virtualhost '' username=null
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Then we see the second failure with the "PLAIN" error.  That
> > > first
> > > >> > > error
> > > >> > > > > indicate that ANONYMOUS log in was actually successful,
> > however
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > were
> > > >> > > > > the running into the fact that no virtualhost is mapped to
> the
> > > >> empty
> > > >> > > > > string.  That suggests to me that you don't have any
> > > >> > virtualhostaliases
> > > >> > > > > defined in your (AMQP) port config. I'd suggest that it
> would
> > > make
> > > >> > > sense
> > > >> > > > to
> > > >> > > > > craft an initial config based on the default initial config
> > for
> > > >> 6.0.x
> > > >> > > > which
> > > >> > > > > will include a virtualhostaliases section in the AMQP port
> > which
> > > >> > looks
> > > >> > > > > like:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > "virtualhostaliases" : [ {
> > > >> > > > >    "name" : "nameAlias",
> > > >> > > > >    "type" : "nameAlias"
> > > >> > > > > }, {
> > > >> > > > >     "name" : "defaultAlias",
> > > >> > > > >     "type" : "defaultAlias"
> > > >> > > > > }, {
> > > >> > > > >     "name" : "hostnameAlias",
> > > >> > > > >     "type" : "hostnameAlias"
> > > >> > > > > } ]
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Let me know if this works for you, then we can look at some
> of
> > > >> your
> > > >> > > other
> > > >> > > > > questions.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > -- Rob
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On 9 April 2016 at 00:31, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Also how do i pass logfile location as -prop as
> commandline
> > > >> > argument?
> > > >> > > > or
> > > >> > > > > > how do i change default log file location i know we can
> > update
> > > >> > > > log4j.xml
> > > >> > > > > > but is there any other way?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Ram
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:48 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > > > > rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > I tried passing properties file as argument but it didnt
> > > like
> > > >> it.
> > > >> > > > Does
> > > >> > > > > it
> > > >> > > > > > > support in 0.28v?
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > ./qpid-server -icp ../etc/initial_config.json -prop
> > > >> > > > > > ../etc/qpidd.properties
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > System Properties set to -Damqj.logging.level=info
> > > >> > > > > > > -DQPID_HOME=/opt/qpid-java-broker -DQPID_WORK=/ebs/
> > > >> > > > > > > QPID_OPTS set to -Damqj.read_write_pool_size=32
> > > >> > -DQPID_LOG_APPEND=
> > > >> > > > > > > Using QPID_CLASSPATH
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > /opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/*:/opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/
> > > >> plugins/*:/opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/opt/*
> > > >> > > > > > > Info: QPID_JAVA_GC not set. Defaulting to JAVA_GC
> > > >> > > > > -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
> > > >> > > > > > > -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError
> > > >> > > > > > > Info: QPID_JAVA_MEM not set. Defaulting to JAVA_MEM
> > > -Xmx1024m
> > > >> > > > > > > Exception during startup: java.lang.
> > > IllegalArgumentException:
> > > >> > > > > > > Configuration property argument is not of the format
> > > >> name=value:
> > > >> > > > > > > ../etc/qpidd.properties
> > > >> > > > > > > java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Configuration
> > property
> > > >> > argument
> > > >> > > > is
> > > >> > > > > > not
> > > >> > > > > > > of the format name=value: ../etc/qpidd.properties
> > > >> > > > > > >     at org.apache.qpid.server.Main.
> execute(Main.java:226)
> > > >> > > > > > >     at org.apache.qpid.server.Main.<
> init>(Main.java:134)
> > > >> > > > > > >     at org.apache.qpid.server.Main.main(Main.java:125)
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > ./qpid-server -icp ../etc/initial_config.json -props
> > > >> > > > > > > ../etc/qpidd.properties
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > System Properties set to -Damqj.logging.level=info
> > > >> > > > > > > -DQPID_HOME=/opt/qpid-java-broker -DQPID_WORK=/ebs/
> > > >> > > > > > > QPID_OPTS set to -Damqj.read_write_pool_size=32
> > > >> > -DQPID_LOG_APPEND=
> > > >> > > > > > > Using QPID_CLASSPATH
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > /opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/*:/opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/
> > > >> plugins/*:/opt/qpid-java-broker/lib/opt/*
> > > >> > > > > > > Info: QPID_JAVA_GC not set. Defaulting to JAVA_GC
> > > >> > > > > -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
> > > >> > > > > > > -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError
> > > >> > > > > > > Info: QPID_JAVA_MEM not set. Defaulting to JAVA_MEM
> > > -Xmx1024m
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > *Error: Unrecognized option: -props*
> > > >> > > > > > > How do i change this block from initial configuration to
> > use
> > > >> > > > Anonymous?
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > {
> > > >> > > > > > >   "name": "Broker",
> > > >> > > > > > >   "storeVersion": 1,
> > > >> > > > > > >   "modelVersion": "1.2",
> > > >> > > > > > >   "defaultVirtualHost" : "default",
> > > >> > > > > > >   "authenticationproviders" : [ {
> > > >> > > > > > >     "name" : "passwordFile",
> > > >> > > > > > >     "type" : "PlainPasswordFile",
> > > >> > > > > > >     "path" : "${qpid.home_dir}/etc/passwd",
> > > >> > > > > > >     "preferencesproviders" : [{
> > > >> > > > > > >         "name": "fileSystemPreferences",
> > > >> > > > > > >         "type": "FileSystemPreferences",
> > > >> > > > > > >         "path" : "${qpid.work_dir}/user.
> preferences.json"
> > > >> > > > > > >     }]
> > > >> > > > > > >   } ],
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Rob Godfrey <
> > > >> > > > rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> Hi Ram,
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> so one approach to this would be to define you
> > > authentication
> > > >> > > > > providers
> > > >> > > > > > up
> > > >> > > > > > >> from in your config file, so you have an an Anonymous
> > > >> provider
> > > >> > > named
> > > >> > > > > > >> "anonymous" and a password file provider named
> > > >> "passwordFile" or
> > > >> > > > > > >> something.  Then in the port sections (AMQP, HTTP, JMX,
> > > etc)
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > can
> > > >> > > > > > >> parameterise the value they have for the name of the
> auth
> > > >> > provider
> > > >> > > > > they
> > > >> > > > > > >> are
> > > >> > > > > > >> using.  So your initial JSON config file could contain
> > > >> something
> > > >> > > > like:
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> "ports" : [  {
> > > >> > > > > > >>   "name" : "AMQP",
> > > >> > > > > > >>   "port" : "${qpid.amqp_port}",
> > > >> > > > > > >>   "authenticationProvider" :
> > > >> > > > > "${qpid.amqp_port_authenticationProvider}",
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> and then you could override which provider to use at
> > > runtime
> > > >> by
> > > >> > > > > setting
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> property qpid.amqp_port_authenticationProvider to
> > > anonymous
> > > >> or
> > > >> > > > > > >> passwordFile
> > > >> > > > > > >> (or the name of any other authentication provider that
> is
> > > >> > defined
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > > > > your
> > > >> > > > > > >> JSON config.
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> The only thing you can't do with properties is to add
> new
> > > >> > entities
> > > >> > > > > into
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> config - that you have to do either by editing the
> file,
> > or
> > > >> by
> > > >> > > using
> > > >> > > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> REST api to modify the broker configuration while it is
> > > >> running.
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> Hope this helps,
> > > >> > > > > > >> Rob
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> On 8 April 2016 at 18:04, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > > > > rammohanganap@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks for detailed explanation, i wanted to restart
> > with
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > changed
> > > >> > > > > > >> > properties if any for example today i have Anonymous
> > SASL
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > > later
> > > >> > > > > i
> > > >> > > > > > >> may
> > > >> > > > > > >> > want to use password file. How do i pass SASL
> mechanism
> > > as
> > > >> > > -prop?
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Ram
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:10 AM, Rob Godfrey <
> > > >> > > > > rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi Ram,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > The initial config file is only used when there is
> no
> > > >> broker
> > > >> > > > > config
> > > >> > > > > > -
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > idea is that it is used to populate the broker
> config
> > > on
> > > >> > first
> > > >> > > > > > >> startup.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Once there is a broker config file then this is
> used
> > > >> (since
> > > >> > it
> > > >> > > > may
> > > >> > > > > > >> have
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > been updated by creating or modifying entities
> > through
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > management
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > functions).  The broker ships with a default
> initial
> > > >> config
> > > >> > > > which
> > > >> > > > > is
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > contained within its jar files, however we allow
> > people
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > provide
> > > >> > > > > > >> there
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > own.  Records in the config file a copied verbatim
> > into
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > config
> > > >> > > > > > >> store
> > > >> > > > > > >> > -
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the only difference being that ids are generated
> for
> > > each
> > > >> > > > entity.
> > > >> > > > > > The
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > interpolation from property names to values is done
> > > each
> > > >> > time
> > > >> > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> broker
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > reads the config.  If the broker finds there is
> > config
> > > in
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > store
> > > >> > > > > > >> path
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > then it completely ignores the initial config - it
> > does
> > > >> not
> > > >> > > > > examine
> > > >> > > > > > >> any
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > differences.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Are you looking to start a completely fresh broker
> > each
> > > >> > time,
> > > >> > > or
> > > >> > > > > > >> merely
> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > be able to change certain properties (such as port
> > > >> numbers)
> > > >> > on
> > > >> > > > > each
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > restart?  If you do not want to retain any changes
> to
> > > the
> > > >> > > broker
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > configuration made while the broker is actually
> > > running,
> > > >> > then
> > > >> > > > you
> > > >> > > > > > >> could
> > > >> > > > > > >> > use
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > a "memory" config store rather than a Json one.  If
> > you
> > > >> want
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > > > > retain
> > > >> > > > > > >> > any
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > changes made through management, but desire the
> > ability
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > change
> > > >> > > > > > >> certain
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > properties (like ports) on each startup, then you
> > don't
> > > >> need
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > > > > worry
> > > >> > > > > > >> > about
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the fact that the initial configuration is only
> > loaded
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > first
> > > >> > > > > > time
> > > >> > > > > > >> -
> > > >> > > > > > >> > you
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > just need to pass in the property values you want
> on
> > > >> > startup.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > In terms of an example system properties file...
> The
> > > >> > default
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > initial-config.json defines the amqp port to be
> > > >> > > > ${qpid.amqp_port}
> > > >> > > > > > and
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > http port to run on ${qpid.http_port}, so if I
> > create a
> > > >> > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> file
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > called rob.properties which contains
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > qpid.http_port=8888
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > qpid.amqp_port=5555
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > and then run qpid with the argument -props
> > > rob.properties
> > > >> > > then I
> > > >> > > > > > >> get...
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > [Broker] BRK-1002 : Starting : Listening on TCP
> port
> > > 5555
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > [Broker] MNG-1001 : Web Management Startup
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > [Broker] MNG-1002 : Starting : HTTP : Listening on
> > TCP
> > > >> port
> > > >> > > 8888
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > So, when you use your initial or stored config you
> > just
> > > >> need
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > > > > ensure
> > > >> > > > > > >> > all
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the variables you use in your config are set in
> your
> > > >> > > properties
> > > >> > > > > file
> > > >> > > > > > >> > (some
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > properties have defaults within the code if they
> are
> > > not
> > > >> > > > otherwise
> > > >> > > > > > >> set -
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > e.g. qpid.amqp_port will default to 5672 if it is
> not
> > > set
> > > >> > > > > > elsewhere).
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hope this helps,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Rob
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 8 April 2016 at 00:41, rammohan ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > > > > >> rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thank you, one more question on -icp and -sp, so
> > what
> > > >> if i
> > > >> > > > have
> > > >> > > > > > >> updated
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > icp
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > with some property change  and restarted broker
> > with
> > > >> icp
> > > >> > > > (every
> > > >> > > > > > >> time i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > restart broker i am using initial config
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > "/opt/qpid-java-broker/bin/qpid-server -icp
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > /opt/qpid-java-broker/etc/config.json" not sure
> if
> > > >> its is
> > > >> > > > right
> > > >> > > > > > way
> > > >> > > > > > >> or
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > not), does it automatically update config file in
> > > -sp?
> > > >> i
> > > >> > my
> > > >> > > > case
> > > >> > > > > > it
> > > >> > > > > > >> did
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > not
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > updated the config file in store-path upon
> restart.
> > > >> What
> > > >> > > will
> > > >> > > > > > >> happened
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > if i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > have differences in initial config file that i
> use
> > to
> > > >> > start
> > > >> > > > > broker
> > > >> > > > > > >> and
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > config file under store-path?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Ram
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Rob Godfrey <
> > > >> > > > > > >> rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > This looks like a client error to me... the
> line
> > > >> which
> > > >> > > says:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >  Client restricted itself to : PLAIN
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Out of interest what happens if you remove the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > &sasl_mechs='ANONYMOUS'
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > from
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > your connection URL?  Without any sort of
> > > restriction
> > > >> > I'd
> > > >> > > > > expect
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > client
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > to do the right thing.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I need to get to sleep now (1am here :-) )...
> > I'll
> > > >> have
> > > >> > > > deeper
> > > >> > > > > > >> look
> > > >> > > > > > >> > in
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > morning.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- Rob
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On 7 April 2016 at 23:51, rammohan
> ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > thanks for the explanation, do you have a
> > sample
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > --system-properties-file?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > that i can take a look?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Also i just tried 6.0.1 but my client/app is
> > > >> throwing
> > > >> > > this
> > > >> > > > > > >> error, i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > am
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > not
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > a developer, i am ops guy and i dont want to
> > > change
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > existing
> > > >> > > > > > >> > code
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > but
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wanted to make java qpid work. This is the
> > error
> > > i
> > > >> am
> > > >> > > > > getting
> > > >> > > > > > >> with
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 6.0.1v..
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 2016-04-07 22:32:36,726
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > QPIDConnectionManager-80478ba7-b31e-483a-823e-f726104ac1db
> > > >> > > > > > ERROR
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > ConnectionImpl.openConnection() :
> > > >> > > > > Error
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > connecting
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > to Connection : 0 Host = qphost01
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > url=amqp://null:********@qphost011460067563391/?
> > > >> brokerlist='tcp://localhost:5672?connecttimeout='5000'&
> > > >> sasl_mechs='ANONYMOUS''
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > error Unknown virtualhost '' username=null
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 2016-04-07 22:32:36,731
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > QPIDConnectionManager-80478ba7-b31e-483a-823e-f726104ac1db
> > > >> > > > > > ERROR
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > S.QUEUECLIENTSERVICE -
> > > >> > ConnectionImpl.openConnection() :
> > > >> > > > > Error
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > connecting
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > to Connection : 0 Host = qphost01
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > url=amqp://null:********@qphost011460067563391/?
> > > >> brokerlist='tcp://localhost:5672?connecttimeout='5000'&
> > > >> sasl_mechs='ANONYMOUS''
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > error Client and broker have no SASL
> mechanisms
> > > in
> > > >> > > common.
> > > >> > > > > > >> Broker
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > allows
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > :
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ANONYMOUS Client has : [EXTERNAL, GSSAPI,
> > > >> > > CRAM-MD5-HASHED,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > CRAM-MD5,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > AMQPLAIN, PLAIN, ANONYMOUS] Client restricted
> > > >> itself
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > :
> > > >> > > > > > PLAIN
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > username=guest
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > And here is my sasl mechanism.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > curl -s 0:10001/service/sasl
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >   "user" : "ANONYMOUS",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >   "mechanisms" : [ "ANONYMOUS" ]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Same SASL with 0.28 works fine with my app
> but
> > > >> 6.0.1
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > > > not
> > > >> > > > > > >> > working.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ram
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rob Godfrey <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 7 April 2016 at 23:16, rammohan
> > > ganapavarapu <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rob,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Does v6.0.1 support Anonymous or no
> > > >> > authentication?
> > > >> > > > last
> > > >> > > > > > >> time
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > when
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > try
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > use .32 it was not working with
> Anonymous.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, Anonymous is supported.  Which AMQP
> > > protocol
> > > >> > are
> > > >> > > > you
> > > >> > > > > > >> using
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > (0-9-1,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 0-10, or 1.0)... I would expect that
> > Anonymous
> > > >> > should
> > > >> > > > work
> > > >> > > > > > on
> > > >> > > > > > >> > 0.32
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > however
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I think in 0.32 the "no authentication
> layer
> > at
> > > >> all"
> > > >> > > > > option
> > > >> > > > > > >> for
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > AMQP
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 1.0
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > probably didn't work (this is different to
> an
> > > >> > > > > authentication
> > > >> > > > > > >> > layer
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > which
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > allows anonymous).
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sorry i was not clear in my previous
> > email, i
> > > >> was
> > > >> > > > taking
> > > >> > > > > > >> about
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > file not broker storage format, the use
> > case
> > > is
> > > >> > if i
> > > >> > > > > > wanted
> > > >> > > > > > >> to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > override
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > some of these properties and i have my
> own
> > > >> custom
> > > >> > > > > > >> tool/script
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > that
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > goes
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > through the properties files and replace
> > with
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > override i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > defined,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > so
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > want to use the same tool/script for qpid
> > > >> config
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > > > > well.
> > > >> > > > > > My
> > > >> > > > > > >> > tool
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > only
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > support key:value but if we have json
> array
> > > it
> > > >> > wont
> > > >> > > > > work.
> > > >> > > > > > So
> > > >> > > > > > >> > if i
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > want
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > pass overrides as "-prop"  command line
> > > >> arguments
> > > >> > > what
> > > >> > > > > are
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > that java qpid support as command line?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Below if my config, is it possible to
> pass
> > > all
> > > >> > these
> > > >> > > > as
> > > >> > > > > > >> command
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > line
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > arguments?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "authenticationproviders" : [ {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "7050933f-3485-4866-95d2-
> > > >> 1f1b258ea3ac",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "Anonymous",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "type" : "Anonymous"
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   } ],
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "defaultVirtualHost" : "default",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "id" : "c433a66c-e6dc-4c48-be01-
> > > >> 268295f580bc",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "modelVersion" : "1.3",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "name" : "Broker",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "plugins" : [ {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "58889cb7-9b9b-4866-bab2-
> > > >> 4cfd63266dbf",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "httpManagement",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "pluginType" : "MANAGEMENT-HTTP"
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   }, {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "67282f5e-ebab-4341-9ff5-
> > > >> 27a58fd2df89",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "jmxManagement",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "pluginType" : "MANAGEMENT-JMX"
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   } ],
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "ports" : [ {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "authenticationProvider" :
> "Anonymous",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "99e13356-080a-4abe-852e-
> > > >> 8c452149cdae",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "JMX_CONNECTOR",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "port" : "9099",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "protocols" : [ "JMX_RMI" ]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   }, {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "authenticationProvider" :
> "Anonymous",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "12813407-62ae-429f-8bee-
> > > >> 75802f3b6553",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "RMI_REGISTRY",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "port" : "8999",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "protocols" : [ "RMI" ]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   }, {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "authenticationProvider" :
> "Anonymous",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "3b107675-edd7-40a3-86c2-
> > > >> 3113b46157f9",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "AMQP",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "port" : "5672"
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   }, {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "authenticationProvider" :
> "Anonymous",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "6dff5ecf-1a4b-46ad-b93d-
> > > >> f2606b5e4f6e",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "HTTP",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "port" : "10001",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "protocols" : [ "HTTP" ]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   } ],
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "storeVersion" : 1,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   "virtualhosts" : [ {
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "createdTime" : 1439482250329,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "id" : "eef20ba0-33d3-4b37-93a7-
> > > >> fe2b34e54503",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "name" : "default",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "storePath" :
> > "/ebs//derbystore/default",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "storeType" : "DERBY",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >     "type" : "STANDARD"
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >   } ]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > }
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > In 6.0 you can replace any value in the
> JSON
> > > >> with a
> > > >> > > > > > reference
> > > >> > > > > > >> to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > property, for example
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > "name" : "${myPortName}",
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > this will then interpolate the value from
> the
> > > >> > > property,
> > > >> > > > so
> > > >> > > > > > if
> > > >> > > > > > >> you
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > set
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > property myPortName to "RobsPort" that will
> > be
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > value
> > > >> > > > > > used.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Type
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > conversions will be performed, so if the
> > > required
> > > >> > > value
> > > >> > > > is
> > > >> > > > > > an
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > integer
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > it
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > will convert to an integer.  If the value
> > > >> required
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > > a
> > > >> > > > > list
> > > >> > > > > > >> then
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > you
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > can
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > use a String representation of a list in
> Json
> > > >> > format.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You can set the properties individually, or
> > you
> > > >> can
> > > >> > > pass
> > > >> > > > > in
> > > >> > > > > > a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > file using -props or
> --system-properties-file
> > > >> (so if
> > > >> > > you
> > > >> > > > > > have
> > > >> > > > > > >> a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > file already maybe you can just pass this
> > in).
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One more question or may be clarification
> > is,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *-sp (--store-path) is the path of config
> > > file
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > > > will
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > generated
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > by
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > qpidd
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > from the initial config right? what is
> the
> > > use
> > > >> of
> > > >> > > > > > >> store-path?*
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > That is correct.  Some people just like to
> > have
> > > >> > config
> > > >> > > > > files
> > > >> > > > > > >> in a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > non-default location :-)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rob
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *Thanks,*
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *Ram*
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Rob
> > Godfrey <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > rob.j.godfrey@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Firstly, 0.28 is quite old now - I
> would
> > > >> > recommend
> > > >> > > > > > >> updating
> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > v6.0.1
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > if
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > you can.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Secondly I'm not sure I understand your
> > > >> > question -
> > > >> > > > are
> > > >> > > > > > you
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > asking
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > about
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > overriding particular properties, or
> the
> > > >> storage
> > > >> > > > > format
> > > >> > > > > > >> for
> > > >> > > > > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > broker
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > configuration - these are two different
> > > >> things.
> > > >> > > In
> > > >> > > > > > terms
> > > >> > > > > > >> of
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > properties /
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > context overrides this can be specified
> > > >> using a
> > > >> > > > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > file
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > (at
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > least
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > in v6 - I forget exactly how it worked
> on
> > > >> 0.28).
> > > >> > > In
> > > >> > > > > > >> terms of
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > configuration, JSON is currently the
> only
> > > >> text
> > > >> > > based
> > > >> > > > > > >> format
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > supported.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > You
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > can use a database for the broker
> config
> > > >> > storage,
> > > >> > > > > there
> > > >> > > > > > >> are
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > built
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > in
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > mechanisms to support Derby, BDB, and
> > > generic
> > > >> > JDBC
> > > >> > > > > > config
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > stores.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > May I ask what advantage you would get
> by
> > > >> using
> > > >> > > YAML
> > > >> > > > > or
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > files
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > instead of JSON?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- Rob
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7 April 2016 at 22:43, rammohan
> > > >> ganapavarapu
> > > >> > <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > rammohanganap@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to start
> > qpid-java-0.28
> > > >> > broker
> > > >> > > > > using
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > .properties
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > file
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > or
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > .xml or .yaml file instead of .json
> > file?
> > > >> or
> > > >> > > what
> > > >> > > > > are
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > other
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ways
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > pass override properties instead of
> > JSON
> > > >> > config
> > > >> > > > > file?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Ram
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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