Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69D6419B5A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35935 invoked by uid 500); 30 Mar 2016 11:08:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@qpid.apache.org Received: (qmail 35902 invoked by uid 500); 30 Mar 2016 11:08:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@qpid.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@qpid.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@qpid.apache.org Received: (qmail 35880 invoked by uid 99); 30 Mar 2016 11:08:35 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:08:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 715A9D12ED for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:08:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.28 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.28 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=scholz-cz.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx2-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zEpY_Ipjr06R for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com (mail-wm0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by mx2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 88B125FAF7 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id p65so66270212wmp.0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:08:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scholz-cz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=TzqUEMET3F+BU6xvadv+LCgOnhvzO0RW8UxQinT3ejE=; b=PbvQPWsFuRLvTRXcnoKRRDTdVlesqZ4xrQ7RljcsfJyYulLBdNE0pgZ9ppPXQE5po5 +uCo9VAmA+UIM9XrIT1JtkYpDi6X+hMmlZntzcGxiGCuA4Wras3xzcmB3swpiwpoHvHR Ywv223Et1eyY73vPad3ODf4LvTMWqhyp/XU/ZlB19eEZ891+ceA8O/V4yIoqwK6dovSE R6krsfLDg5ht4nPdDyeCivHrm7vmiodpXnixkGuqFnIg3/kK2sx4wBw0/z/96Vr0ELp5 iGRl71f+2b8a3iecv5CvE/3vo9+CgmdAbR1N44UP3CqWYLJIKv0VrEyuEXG5iVICBHNa 7CZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=TzqUEMET3F+BU6xvadv+LCgOnhvzO0RW8UxQinT3ejE=; b=fya7Qu6fnFCzbXZoV0SNv3ACRCu9FswM1cadxa7d80GMGgtMbmwH/hrWZeCaF+X84M fOexPxxM23BB7nibZ+L8U8CYhVwtOkNG0eUScuasihSQgtdkva4dCDHy7/A9OtWUucU/ p6yLgf1gFMDWhs00waj+xhTDxTi/LZ40Y28C318OgXUcGhFAEem+PX+eTO7e+6iGMZTs pMM5/34aXxfwkx1wCucR0a2HjRlFcFtV6SynCj8UtcSxniP6Yeo22+foQAFFsRcumpwh K8LXoflwC3ejz16fe/3eygWLXLIiHjYIMbKaPWF+PN2SKEJLGJSSyIXSZ5b5qMGjyqsE kkSA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI7yQhOcNanpZXlLwOIesxYOByE2BKKR/XtvGsk9OQtoVgaAQtTqiFi089BxJUAfL/2Pt4RLVYd11TlAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.22.74 with SMTP id 71mr9347337wmw.47.1459336112228; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.195.132 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [193.29.76.37] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] merge the proton mailing list into the users/dev lists From: Jakub Scholz To: proton@qpid.apache.org Cc: "users@qpid.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1146762c93e46d052f422aad --001a1146762c93e46d052f422aad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Kai wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:25 PM Robbie Gemmell wrote: > > > Hello folks, > > > > Many moons ago, a seperate mailing list was established for Proton, > > back when it was purely a protocol engine other components would use. > > Its scope has since expanded beyond that and the separate mailing list > > has I feel been an increasing source of confusion and hassle of late > > more than anything else. Collapsing it into the other larger existing > > lists we have (that the traffic would otherwise have been on) seems to > > me like it would be an improvement across the board, and as such I > > have called this vote. > > > > I would propose that discussion (such as this) would head to the > > users@q.a.o list to join the similar/related/duplicate traffic already > > present, with remaining things going to the dev@q.a.o list as > > consistent with that list (e.g JIRA, GitHub integration mails, > > ReviewBoard, though the latter was never actually directed to proton@ > > to begin with..). > > > > Whilst redirecting JIRA etc emails should be easy enough (has been > > done before), I dont know what the precise options are regarding > > existing mail subscriptions to the list. There are significantly more > > subscribers to users@ than proton@, and many are duplicates, but some > > are not. I'd need to discuss options with infra, but first things > > first, the vote. > > > > I have gone straight to a vote on this because I feel this has already > > been discussed enough previously over time that many people will have > > already thought about it enough to quickly vote one way or the other, > > and it is past time to act on it if things head that way. Obviously > > things can be further discusssed at this point also if desired. > > > > Note that both users@ and proton@ are in the recipients. I expect the > > thread will splinter when someone forgets to reply-all, as almost all > > cross-posted thread on the lists do, but at least it can start on both > > for visibility to all. > > > > Robbie > > > --001a1146762c93e46d052f422aad--