Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C835188B1 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60875 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2016 09:11:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-qpid-users-archive@qpid.apache.org Received: (qmail 60801 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2016 09:11:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@qpid.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@qpid.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@qpid.apache.org Received: (qmail 60742 invoked by uid 99); 12 Feb 2016 09:11:22 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 3F91518027D; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.821 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R22v-OoGCKi3; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id BE4E720526; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id uq3so5945046lbc.1; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:11:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WxydfR59Iy+tCa+zo8p2Ku7oHZhlMj+cR8MG822E5bA=; b=QyG46CRlrxsuA6NK1nv6xd+Tk7nMr1LX4ULd3HBhz50JYCPBraluiJSdMN6JUv/v/1 /pdsuR1G4u12YOUsDiOz2j1ZvhOCAGNKFv6p2KQeCmJkPa1lZcsHGzVmjHBbXZoiJh+B Qw2x97Yy5vPo5frJjzgoK8kTpiJcMVDtKI6t2L0NPU6TvSBUg3ypusU0zyzJc/HhDt8e llL67g8/b5hIknurkuDuHEU7HhPNqt5wxgYP0hRGfvrooIt4oM74vIQs1ASQmM9ssQ7f DEmTntZlBesWfsElzjcPTmvAh+ML2Aga430+efVi1QknNanKfqO/MXbRIBoo44q0tOs6 uL8g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WxydfR59Iy+tCa+zo8p2Ku7oHZhlMj+cR8MG822E5bA=; b=aw3q5tdMV3IELS5sssK59wW1CP3zC2ekkEPsX41esfKYhCqhFjBgQl4ojaHQ8QxwtD iljtT8b+SfIW1Li73XSU1X9jsHsFO2OWJOoYbaMq6KvOP42hABMxZL0CoZW8g1EO4pL1 tL2unS7zZ/lXUnuMb9AQa2JgicgE4Xkvha6fNDvTRp6n1J6Y7yp7ROngVGO8+SK5CTkG gYd6mUvIzoddUO3ig/sHMTXpr9oy8lj8M0XkTX533dZ87gW/ykelCBLTJjd2Bn7zZ6Zu mLNxCI3XaGdCJas/7FHHOUVNTkgFItT69Gt6En4GaSBtV7lYdPO7wKIK6AvphIKPtLkD gZLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSib/8kBZvwrJ3RMvCprwJf03pA/X0cGnyTJ3mYDiuA29oK+eIH3OznDmGjiEL2Vqzx+Nl4wlFYNhp7CQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.126.229 with SMTP id nb5mr181966lbb.28.1455268279047; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.150.68 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:11:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:11:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Proposal] Roadmap for ending Java 7 support for the Java Broker and AMQP 0-x client From: Oleksandr Rudyy To: dev@qpid.apache.org Cc: "users@qpid.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 to Robs suggestions On 11 February 2016 at 15:12, Rob Godfrey wrote: > All, > > about 2 years ago we discussed the roadmap for ending support for Java 6 > [1]. In April it will be one year since Oracle ceased public support for > Java 7. Towards the end of this year (hopefully) Java 9 will be released. > As such I think it is time for us to start discussing how long we will > continue to support Java 7 as a platform for new feature releases of the > Java Broker and the AMQP 0-x client. > > Our current Java roadmap[2] has us scheduled for a Q1 release of Qpid v6.1 > and a Q3 release of Qpid v7 (with a v7.1 release to follow some time after > that). What I would like to propose is that v6.1 will be the last feature > release where we commit to supporting Java 7 for the Broker. That for Qpid > v7 we commit to supporting Java 7 and 8 as platforms for the client - but > that the Broker will support only Java 8. Further I propose that Qpid v8 > (release data TBD, but sometime in 2017) will support Java 8 and Java 9 > (presuming it has been released) but we will no longer support Java 7 as a > platform for the client. > > To aid users who cannot upgrade from Java 7 we will commit to producing bug > fix releases on the Qpid v6.1.x line for at least one further year (and > probably longer) after the initial v6.1 release. > > In terms of drivers for ending Java 7 support... we have already seen some > of our key dependencies (such as Jetty) drop support for Java 7. We also > are running into issues where the age the Java 7 platform makes it hard to > support modern security standards, or it simply does not support APIs > necessary for correct implementations of AMQP 1.0 semantics (e.g. Java 7 > does not provide server name identification support for TLS on the server > side - which AMQP 1.0 requires to identify desired virtual hosts). From > experience, it will also become overly burdensome to start trying to > support three different Java versions once Java 9 is released. > > Thoughts? > > Rob > > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/201404.mbox/%3CCACsaS94O8g3-+895GEKE-b0sP128mMM2hsg4mjNJHr28W=bpWQ@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Java+Roadmap --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@qpid.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@qpid.apache.org