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From Oleksandr Rudyy <oru...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Website update 2
Date Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:57:06 GMT
Hi Justin,

The new version looks really nice. Well done.
However, I got a couple of minor comments.

General remarks:

I do not know if it is me (may be I am getting older and more conservative
:) ) but I would decrease slightly the size of the fonts. They look bigger
than I get used to.

Front page.

I would like to suggest to remove couple of redundancies which appeared  in
the new version of the site:
- The download button in the right top corner seems like does not bring
anything new as there is already download link in the top menu.
- The phrase "Qpid is an Apache <http://www.apache.org/> project" seems
like another duplication as the title of the site does not leave any place
for doubts that it is not an Apache project. Maybe it can be replaced with
the link to AMQP site? I would move the link to Apache main web site into
Apache sub-section below.

Also, I would improve the Developers link. It looks like an incorrectly
written html comment for me. I would make it similar to the sections above
("Apache", "Resources", "Qpid Proton" etc.) and put some links underneath,
for example, link to road map page (if we are going to maintain it
accurately), qpid_project_etiquette_guide.html, code styles?, etc.

I got a question about documentation for previous  releases. There are
links to the current documentation on each component page. But what about
the links to the documentation for previous releases? Have I missed it?

Kind Regards,

On 4 April 2013 00:12, Justin Ross <jross@apache.org> wrote:

> Update:
>     http://people.apache.org/~jross/transom/2013-04-03/
> Previous version:
>     http://people.apache.org/~jross/transom/2013-03-26/
> Head version (if you want to follow things as they change):
>     http://people.apache.org/~jross/transom/head/
> The source code:
>     https://github.com/ssorj/transom
> I have a feeling the most noticed change will be the page width.  It's
> now set to a max width just a hair wider (leftmost to rightmost
> character) than our current site.  In addition, it scales down to fit
> comfortably in one half of a wide desktop display or a mobile device
> in portrait.
> There remain plenty of things to do:
> https://github.com/ssorj/transom/blob/master/TODO.  Check there to see
> if the thing you'd like to have is still incoming.
> Topics for discussion:
>   - Should we rename AMQP Messenger (and its buddy) to Proton
> Messenger to clarify the link to the toolkit?
>     - Alternatively, should we give up on treating messenger and
> protocol engine as peers to jms and the messaging api, etc., and just
> call it the "Proton component"?
>   - Is "Component" a terrible name for an end-user-facing,
> independently usable, independently documented Qpid subunit?  Do you
> have suggestions?
> Changes:
>   - Content:
>     - Many of operational links on the right have been "bubbled down",
> simplifiying the right side of the front page
>       - I intend to restore some of these under the currently
> stubbed-out developer page
>     - Avoid personal pronoun in project statement
>     - Employ Rafi's language for user scenarios in the intro text
>     - Make download the primary entry point for qpid release content
>     - Add site, wiki, and jira search under a consolidated search interface
>     - Make it clear from the messenger and protocol engine component
> pages that they are part of proton
>     - Retarget download links in previous releases at archive.apache.org
>     - Add or clarify trademarks
>       - The big title still needs one; it's blocked on an xml/unicode
> problem
>     - Under components
>       - Use "servers" instead of "brokers"
>       - Add a tool section, and move QMF there
>       - Add a JCA component, also under tools
>       - Note in JMS component that 1.0 is a separate artifact from the
> other versions
>     - Under download
>       - Restore the AMQP prefix to proton components
>       - Note that some artifacts are bytecode, and link to source
>       - Move the verification text and more-ways-to-get-qpid link here
>   - Navigation
>     - Add persistent top nav
>     - Path navigation is displayed only when you're deep in the tree
> and need it to know where you are
>     - Promoted apache links on the front page to the right hand column
>   - Many style tweaks
> Thanks!
> Justin
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