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From "John Wooten" <jwoo...@ntplx.net>
Subject RE: .../WEB-INF/classes
Date Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:22:28 GMT
Haven't figured out how to get a request for help input into the system.

1)  I installed jetspeed as per documentation.
2)  I have an smtp mail server installed on my machine.
3)  I get an error when logging our or updating an account about a class
cast exception for BigNum.
4)  Would it make any sense to have the system print out on the server
(Tomcat) console the SECRET verification code when it tries to mail it?
That way, even us dummies that can't get the email working ( mine won't
access 25 or other port, since they are already in use!!!), can still get
the SECRET verification codes and get moving!!!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Martin [mailto:RayMartin@aci-hq.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:44 PM
To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
Subject: RE: .../WEB-INF/classes

Yes, Sir,

i can provide some instructions on how to do this - meaning download and
install the nightly build for jetspeed.

i am not suggesting that you do it - i am just gonna tell you how you can

if you have put time and energy into understanding Jetspeed from the
release version as i have - throw away all of your knowledge - spit it out
like waste.

the whole thing has changed.  you won't be able to find things.  the files
are not where you expect them to be.  new tags have appeared and ya can't
find their definitions - tell me where screenJsp is defined.  it used to be
ecsscreen defined in ... /templates/tld/template.tld - don't expect
screenJsp to be defined there.

jetspeed.jcfg is gone. no rhyme, no reason, no explanation - just gone.
 search far and wide through piles and piles of files - this is called

this is a painful experience.  after you have "upgraded" (that sure is the
wrong word), the site becomes painfully slow - sometimes you wonder if it
will ever return - if you get tired of waiting, minimize the browser, and
restore it - this was faster for me.

the site has bloomed, but is it better? try to make heads and tails of it.

go to http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-jetspeed/nightly/2001-12-03/
there are two jetspeed zip files - one for windows platforms, on efor Unix
select the one right for you.
place the downloaded file in a directory of your choice  on Windows, i put
it right at C:\  on Unix, i put it at /usr/tools
unzip the file
on Windows extract, on Unix use GNU tar to untar
the resultant directory is jakarta-jetspeed
follow the directions in the Install file (these are good useful
directions, the builds scripts are great)
after installing and viewing the installation with your browser - return to
the land of pain

when you attempt to produce your first class using PortletHowTo  things go
south in a hurry - the classpaths are a nightmare.  the jetspeed jar is not
where you would have expected it - .../WEB-INF/lib with all of the rest of
the jars.  also, the Turbine jar would not work for me - had to point to
another version elsewhere.

the documentation was not included in the download - thus not in the WAR
file - this is meaningful to me because i am developing on an isolated
Intranet - otherwise you would just point your browser at the Jetspeed site
on the Internet and view the documentation.  i didn't have this advantage
at my developement site, therefore, the pain was increased.

you will observe that life is a set of checks and balances.  when the pain
outweighs the advantages, we cease and go elsewhere - what other choice
does one have?

i believe the issue of portals (information perspective) and view ports
(GUI layouts and decorations) had become too interwoven and too
interspersed that the true meanings of the terms can no longer be

the nighlty build is further separated from interaction with Cocoon then
the release build - this is a tremendous setback for me.

From: 	Geoff Hollingworth (EUS)[SMTP:Geoff.Hollingworth@am1.ericsson.se]
Reply To: 	Jetspeed Users List
Sent: 	Monday, December 03, 2001 9:30 PM
To: 	Jetspeed Users List
Subject: 	RE: .../WEB-INF/classes

Can anybody direct me to instructions on how to do this?

"I suggest you upgrade to jetspeed version 1.3a2-dev from the nightly
 Most of the discussions are related to 1.3a2-dev."

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Martin [mailto:RayMartin@aci-hq.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:15 PM
To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
Subject: RE: .../WEB-INF/classes

i have done searches through some of the mail lists.  i was not able to
surface an answer to my predicament.

if anyone can help me, i would appreciate it.  my customer is looking at me
like i am a dumb ass (and they are probably right - i just didn't want to
prove it so early in the project)

i persuaded them that the project should leverage off of the tremendous
thought and energy by using some of the tools located at the Apache web
site instead of using PERL and CGI.  now because of my dilema, they are
pointing at me and going "Yeah, right..."

i am using jdk1.3 - i had previously backed away from jdk1.4 - my brother
was having trouble with jdk1.4 and Cocoon2.

From: 	paulspencer@mindspring.com[SMTP:paulspencer@mindspring.com]
Reply To: 	Jetspeed Users List
Sent: 	Friday, November 30, 2001 5:04 PM
To: 	Jetspeed Users List
Subject: 	Re: .../WEB-INF/classes

I suggest you upgrade to jetspeed version 1.3a2-dev from the nightly build.
 Most of the discussions are related to 1.3a2-dev.

I believe their is a JDK problem with a unix, although I do not know the
version of the JDK or which Unix.  The resolution was to use a previous
version of the JDK.  Suggest you search the jetspeed user and developer
mailing lists, http://www.mail-archive.com

Paul Spencer

Jetspeed Users List
<RayMartin@aci-hq.com> wrote:
> using two different machines - one running Windows 2000, the other
i do the "how to write a porlet" discussion.
i place the HelloWorldPortlet in WEB-INF/classes and register the portlet
with jetspeed-config.jcfg.
the portlet does its thing on the Windows box - says hello and appears in
the customizer.
the Solaris 2.8 machine - nothing - no hello, no HelloWorldPortlet in the

i may be screwing up here - this could well be a Tomcat issue and i am
asking my question in the wrong forum - or worse yet a Unix problem - then
i'm really gonna be embarassed.

not to cross forums, but just for a little more information - Turbine and
Cocoon2 stand up on the Windows box, but neither stand up on the Unix box
(this is what makes me believe that my problem is not a Jetspeed issue).

i am running catalina on both platforms passing in 'run' on the command
line but no '-security'.

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