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From "Frans Thamura" <fth4m...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Velocity / JSP / XML & XSLT : Why ???
Date Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:24:20 GMT
I get an experience that if you using JSP, tomcat will compile it, and if
you change the JSP, the page will use old class from old JSP, this is
wasting time.

Velocity is JIT, compile in memory.

Try it.

Frans

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raphaƫl Luta" <raphael.luta@networks.groupvu.com>
To: <jetspeed-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Velocity / JSP / XML & XSLT : Why ???


> Norman Schoneich wrote:
>
> > Jetspeed supports different template engines.
> > But in the moment, the default template layout engine is velocity and
it'is
> > the most supported engine by the jetspeed developers.
> > The previous default engine was jsp, but the support (or development
> > process) of the jsp layout seems to be stopped.
> > I can understand that some people prefer velocity. But every layout
engine
> > has it's own advantages and disadvanteges. I think Jetspeed
> > has to support multiple layout engines, but they must be handled
equally.
> >
>
>
> Agreed on the multiple support, as for the *equal* support it depends a
all
> on finding people that make sure any given layout system is up to date
with
> the engine features...
> I personnally use Velocity so this is the layout on which I'll work most.
>
>
> > What's about an XML & XSLT based approach ? Is it possible (or better)
to
> > render the portlets by the different controllers and then render the
result
> > with an XSLT file (the portlets use themself xml/xsl, which i use). I
like
> > this approach the most, because it' s based on open standards unlike
> > velocity.
> >
>
>
> It's possible to use XML & XSLT but not necessarily very easy to manage:
> - if each portlet outputs a specific XML dialect/namespace, it's very
difficult
>    to write an engine that transfoms all these dialects into the target
type
>    without a complete foreknowledge of the supported XML dialects.
>
> - if each portlet outputs a standard media independent, layout oriented
XML
>
>   dialect (FO anybody ?) you can actually post-process the output
correctly
>
>    but you need to carefully select your intermediate layout language so
that
>
>   it's not to complex/costly to transform.
>
>
> Also Velcoity is definitely an "open" format since its specification is
>
> publicly available and anybody can write an alternate implementation.
> It's just not recognized by an industry committe yet. But then if it fits
> your need better, who cares ?
>
>
> > norsch
> >
> > Norman Schoneich
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Paul Spencer [mailto:paul@mikon.com]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2001 16:25
> > An: jetspeed-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Jetspeed URL redirection question
> >
> >
> > Ajan,
> > You will not find the files, because they do not exist.  Jetspeed
> > interprets the URL and determines what need to be returned to the
> > browser.  I suggest you review Jetspeed's web site,
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >
> > Paul Spencer
> >
> > Ajan Balakrishnan wrote:
> >
> >>>I'm a newbie to jetspeed. My question is when the jetspeed shows it
> >>>homepage the url shown is
> >>>http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/portal/screen/Home  or when i click the
> >>>customize link it invokes
> >>>http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/portal/screen/Customize  url.  Could
> >>>anybody please tell me  where these files are loadecated inside
jetspeed
> >>>directories or is it an alias name to some other directories.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the help in advance
> >>>Ajan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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>
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> Vivendi Universal Networks - Paris
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