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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:46:31 +0200
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon Feedback !!
From: Jiri Jetmar <juergen.jetmar@gmail.com>
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Hey Nino,

welcome back in life :-)

I see what you mean, but at least from my side there are the following
comments :

1.) In a 50 min Session, one can not really cover details for a "large" App
2.) Where there is no knowledge about Zest in the audience, one has to
first explain e.g. what a Fragment is. Otherwise the code that will be
shown later will not make any sense.

But I see your point, and lets see if we can do it for the next Apache Con
better.
Are you willing to contribute ?

Thank you.

Cheers,
Jiri


2015-10-08 17:50 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>:

> Thanks, and yes that has been discussed in the past. Problem is that it is
> not really feasible to do "big applications" at a conference, but Rickard
> did a small comparison at Oredev 2009,
> http://oredev.org/videos/dci-in-practice
>
> For online content, a bigger example is more feasible. Suggestion of one is
> appreciated... ;-)
>
> Niclas
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 4:41 PM, nino martinez wael <
> nino.martinez.wael@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Im alive :)
> >
> > Okay time for a little feedback.
> >
> > Disclaimer, I did not stay for the full presentation, one of my
> > colleagues were chewing my arm off, so we left ~10 mins after
> > scheduled end.
> >
> > I would really have liked to see two large applications compared. One
> > with normal pojos and java workings and another with Zest. So that it
> > would become very clear how powerful composite programming really are.
> >
> > I think a simple console app, would do just fine, so that people don't
> > get hung up on technologies.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > regards AND thanks for a good presentation
> > Nino
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Jiri Jetmar <juergen.jetmar@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > wow ! I hope you will be well soon ! All the best.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jiri
> > >
> > > 2015-10-04 14:09 GMT+02:00 nino martinez wael <
> > nino.martinez.wael@gmail.com>
> > > :
> > >
> > >> I'm down with Food poisoning I'll give the feedback during the week
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015, 08:13 Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Yeah, Nino.... Shoot.
> > >> >
> > >> > Most people here might not know that Nino had a keen interest in
> Qi4j
> > in
> > >> > the very early days, but got disengaged for some reason (unknown to
> me
> > >> > why)...
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers
> > >> > Niclas
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 11:46 PM, nino martinez wael <
> > >> > nino.martinez.wael@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi guys I do have some feedback for the presentation, If you want
> > it..
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2015, 17:32 Paul Merlin <paul@nosphere.org> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Gang,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Unfortunately the sessions were not recorded.
> > >> > > > Slides can be downloaded here:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/eskatos/zest-apache-con/raw/master/Apache_Zest-ApacheCon_2015_EN_FINAL.pdf
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The room was crowded with 30/40 people, more than we expected.
> > >> > > > We started a bit late (~12:30) because of the previous
> > presentation
> > >> so
> > >> > > > we ended late (~13:30+). People were definitely hungry but not
> > angry
> > >> :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > We opted to make some live-code to demonstrate all theory in
> > >> practice.
> > >> > > > We think that approach made a lot of sense and allowed to check
> > that
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > attendees were not lost all along the presentation. In the
> slides
> > >> > you'll
> > >> > > > find the github link to the code we showed. We kept it simple in
> > >> order
> > >> > > > to show the essentials, compostion, assembly, step by step.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > We got good questions during and after the presentation.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > In the afternoon, Roman talked to us about some CloudFoundry
> > >> > > > integration. He'll show up on the list about that.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > That's all folks, hungarian wine is good :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Jiri & Paul
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/eskatos/zest-apache-con/raw/master/ApacheCon-Zest-Jiri-Paul-Small.jpg
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> > >> > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
> > Nino Martinez
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>

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