Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-zest-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-zest-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D58F188EB for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40081 invoked by uid 500); 19 Sep 2015 11:32:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-zest-dev-archive@zest.apache.org Received: (qmail 40042 invoked by uid 500); 19 Sep 2015 11:32:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@zest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@zest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@zest.apache.org Received: (qmail 40030 invoked by uid 99); 19 Sep 2015 11:32:11 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:32:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D284BC01D9 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:32:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.98 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.98 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ZjtS1JMhRZ1 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B303A21270 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lanb10 with SMTP id b10so43662592lan.3 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:31:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Pk7r90fgRXygj/8QteVdN7jGvWgyorKr2bNoIW++fJo=; b=SAd6ROAseTb2dTEVJAsJZMa8wFLHpGcViXKpB3/sQN+TaeSgcBsUYa7eHVtesUy7Od lReby4Key2xMwFlyTb6xQQGGSGVJZ6Z5iAmIc8LE9HvD6gokbTS25Zly9PmWvLMrq5yN ZdHJ63ivp3ygKotzrJGz7HD5+ItkGH8xaPqHBCm31YoGO67IHqlA8HXVuzw1/waeragA us+K08X1o2NLUnt8k75/tFq4UJtKNbmVU5qTwXcguzR1Wy/CAkGyT9GeIuluC1Aixj9R 11jU/IGYM/UyYNf27dA4Wzoyxb4IheRykOpm/9LQ6/X/BMvjLiJqnRbxT4GMvjZzHxcU 6tFA== X-Received: by 10.112.63.67 with SMTP id e3mr4684301lbs.92.1442662317071; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:31:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hedhman@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.133.4 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Niclas Hedhman Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:31:37 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q7rt4CXpmULpSCt_O53hD2UEmOg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apache Zest in Action To: dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3ea94f0a367052017fe05 --001a11c3ea94f0a367052017fe05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It is indeed a large effort. I have been involved in 3 books (reviewer and small content provider), and it is not fun to underestimate the effort. Manning has a bunch of papers that describe exactly what will happen. It is not a given that they will publish a book, just because we are an Apache project. I am a bit surprised that Manning hasn't sent the written material before any phone call. That would make it easier to prepare for the call... Cheers Niclas On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Jiri Jetmar wrote: > Hi Gang, > > just a short note - I will have on Monday, 11am EST a call with the > "Manning Publications" > regarding a possible publication of a "Apache Zest in Action" book. > > This is the first call and I guess it goes more in a direction like how > does the process > look like, structures, etc. as well as legal aspects. I;m not experienced > in this field > and there I want to use this call to get more informations. > > From my perspective the lack of documentation prevents lots of developers > to join the Zest > community. Therefore having such a .. in Action book would be a step in the > right direction. > > I have also a huge respect to start such a project and therefore I;m > thinking more > on a community effort. Having 2-4 co-authors will both decrease the effort > for a single author > and (hopefully) increase the quality for the entire book. > > Ideas / comments ? > > Thank you. > > Cheers, > Jiri > -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java --001a11c3ea94f0a367052017fe05--