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From "Javen O'Neal" <one...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Interesting question on SO
Date Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:39:22 GMT
Thanks. We've got this in hand.

On Nov 21, 2016 7:14 PM, "Javen O'Neal" <onealj@apache.org> wrote:

> Looks like there is at least one other non-Apache package using the
> org.apache.poi namespace. [1]
>
> I would approach this from a friendly direction first.
>
> I'm assuming they needed an o.a.p namespace so they would have access to
> protected and package-private methods and variables. The alternative is to
> fork POI and elevate the visibility of the classes, functions, and
> variables that they need to access. The disadvantage of a forked project is
> high overhead to keep it synchronized with the upstream project. This would
> be messy if another
>
> I like the idea of reaching out to these developers to see if they're
> willing to donate some of their code under ASL 2.0. I'm guessing most of
> this would be elevating visibility of private, package-private, and
> protected methods, as well as adding some getters and setters. Other
> changes would be adding a converters interface that they could implent or
> extend.
>
> Obviously we aren't interested in code that cannot be ASL 2.0 licensed,
> such as the iTextPdf dependency.
>
> The goal would be to allow these projects to use their own namespace
> without needing to maintain a fork of POI.
>
> [1] http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Corg.apache.poi
>
> On Nov 21, 2016 14:57, "Nick Burch" <apache@gagravarr.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2016, Murphy, Mark wrote:
>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40723370/was-opensagres-a
>>> llowed-to-use-apache-poi-like-packages
>>>
>>> Does ASF defend its package names, or do we just ignore these kinds of
>>> things and folks use them at their own peril?
>>>
>>
>> I had a quick look at http://apache.org/foundation/marks/ but couldn't
>> see anything there about java or maven package names. I have a feeling
>> there is something somewhere that I saw a few years ago...
>>
>> If you have a bit of time, would you mind asking on trademarks@ [1] for
>> advice / pointers?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/contact
>>
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