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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@buni.org>
Subject Re: Rejection of any ENCUMBERED Microsoft Donation to POI
Date Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:09:16 GMT
Again positive.  Discussions with counsel are not what I was referring 
to.  However I think you are overly conservative on "pony" and David was 
overly liberal (patent list isn't necessarily feasible for instance) in 


Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, David Fisher <dfisher@jmlafferty.com> wrote:
>>  Myself, I would ask Sam to informally discuss these requests as "issues"
>> and see what their counsel suggests
> My plans would be to discuss it with our counsel resources first.  And
> just as a fore-warning, such discussions would likely initially occur
> on a non-public list.
> But first, I would like to eliminate all "but I want a pony" types of
> requests.  I don't mean that in any way to be disrespectful to anybody
> on this mailing list, but we need to respectful of everybody's time
> and not request anything more than we absolutely need.
> For example, much of this discussion has centered around Microsoft's
> unsolicited OSP.  To what extent does POI rely on that promise?  We
> have not required that of others.  For example, if it turns out that
> the OSP is at best helpful and at worst harmless, and it turns out
> that POI doesn't require an OSP anyway, then is there really a need to
> pursue clarifications?
> On the other hand, if it turns out that the consensus is that the
> licenses that are made available for OOXML are not sufficient for
> POI's needs and that the OSP, as currently written, does not cover the
> gap, then I would be glad to help broker an agreement, and failing
> that, help with and co-sign a letter such as this one:
>   http://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html
> - Sam Ruby
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