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From Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Adding a "ping" method to the API?
Date Thu, 07 Feb 2019 21:05:41 GMT
Hi all,

well the case I was thinking about was to be able to build tooling that is able to:
a) verify a PLC exists at a given IP Address
b) detect PLCs in the network and detect which protocols are enabled

I would like to make it easier to setup things.

Chris



Am 07.02.19, 14:14 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>:

    Hi Jens,
    
    first, a warm welcome and cool to have you here on the list!
    
    I guess your idea works very well in case of "continuous" communication (like e.g. the
scraper).
    But, where I'd like to have the "ping" is for the ProxyPlcDriver.
    In our application we use such a Proxy which manages all requests through a Pool of "real"
connections (mostly one) to a PLC.
    In this scenario there can be situations where there is no communication for minutes and
we'd like to ensure that the connection is still alive either frequently by a fixed interval
(every minute) or if some client requests a new connection or returns it back (as most JDBC
Pools do it).
    
    And a ping that really does nothing for each driver is preferable from my side against
driver specific implementation (in the s7 case we could also use something like reading something
from the LSZ which is always there) or so.
    
    @Chris: What is your exact use case for the ping?
    
    Julian
    
    Am 07.02.19, 14:03 schrieb "Jens Maier" <jens_maier5@hotmail.com>:
    
        Hi all,
        
        maybe there is no need for a ping. At the development of our driver we also got sometimes
disconnects without any real issue. At the same issue our driver makes a complete disconnect
at time out and by a configurable retry counter.
        After about 5 secs of no communication resume or overrun the counter, the driver signals
Connection Error and answer each reading request with 0 to get no empty values.
        
        We also slow down the communication by Delay, when there was a error and slowly speed
up to max.
        
        With this, we can unplug the cable for undetermined time and at the plug in, the driver
continues with the communication.
        
        If this is interesting, i can post some VB6 code.
        
        Jens
        
        
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        Von: Markus Sommer <sommer@isb-fn.de>
        Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2019 11:50
        An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
        Betreff: AW: [DISCUSS] Adding a "ping" method to the API?
        
        +1 from myside.
        
        It's good idea to search for PLCs or to realize an automatic configuration of the
communication....
        
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        Von: Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
        Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2019 11:32
        An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
        Betreff: [DISCUSS] Adding a "ping" method to the API?
        
        Hi all,
        
        Having had the same problem several times now, I think we might consider solving this
…
        
        I’ve had the problem that potential customers say things like “We communicate
via S7” … well the thing is they have an S7, but that doesn’t mean the communication
is done in the native S7 protocol. It could be:
        
          *   Profinet
          *   S7Pluss (New TIA Version of the protocol)
          *   Modbus
          *   OPC-UA
        
        So what I would like to do, is to add a “ping” method to the connection, that
would allow to try connecting to a given PLC. With this we could write code that for example
tries all supported protocols for a given IP address and reports which ones are enabled.
        We could also write a PLC scanner that pings an IP range and tries pinging the different
protocols for each responsive IP address … this would be a huge help for people using PLC4X
applications in the field …
        
        What do you think?
        
        We sort of would need to define “ping” operations for each connection type (Like
the “SELECT 1” SQL query in JDBC and JPA).
        
        Chris
        
    
    

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