Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-pivot-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 28416 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 07:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 07:48:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 94502 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2010 07:48:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-pivot-user-archive@pivot.apache.org Received: (qmail 94135 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2010 07:47:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@pivot.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@pivot.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@pivot.apache.org Received: (qmail 94122 invoked by uid 99); 9 Sep 2010 07:47:58 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:47:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ozbtech@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.54] (HELO mail-qw0-f54.google.com) (209.85.216.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:47:50 +0000 Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so149428qwg.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:47:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+vubHJ4e/YwPrF9XKOkntvBlwA24jPKSkoUsojVWoyc=; b=UCKtTkpsMT2/tMA92sZAvexv0IcPNItlFDRFCAAlzpmfyfeeGimc6LlNaZBSm3IMSR +Cs6Gqyen251G0pZgM2AuY27mpP4hJNWXJKIfsWB3avI6w66VbnQchdO5g+UWbww6K4O C5PF2eIWJD+IaCOm6xvCmKs5gnqiigVPDaOR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MAnuxcKfSDBiMIrrDoOaKTzaxXXwEzABZfFTEivC3LkPocTMMaDAVup0EbIOH/tDUl mvYpmgt9U23BAZiDbTxDMUhNk0Sqvqcd8xyKUi15B0UfNZ6if1xAafx48yIXpQxRqmAb awUIXQTi2wz7mvP0E55VyQ5YFez7x9L2fgT/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.81 with SMTP id d17mr301262qam.253.1284018449509; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.29.17 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:47:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6CC0BFE4-98F5-482E-A028-86DAFE0DE60C@mac.com> References: <1102485C-C8D2-4D65-B3EF-5115F3DF2B35@mac.com> <6CC0BFE4-98F5-482E-A028-86DAFE0DE60C@mac.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:47:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ComboBox From: "A. J." To: user@pivot.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517503b08916e85048fced793 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001517503b08916e85048fced793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The combobox (editable version) is useful when you want to present a list of possible values and you want to enter a value that is not present in the list. You can achieve this in Pivot with a TextInput + SuggestionPopup but you have no way for the user to open the list through mouse interaction (unless you add a button of course but then you have to manage 3 components in pivot where in other platforms you only have to deal with one). That is where a combo is handy but I agree that functionnaly speaking, one can use a mix of pivot controls to provide the same behaviour. Another problem is that creating a suggestion popup in pure WTKX / BXML is not very convenient (have to attach textinput listeners, etc ..), is it even possible ? On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Brown wrote: > But let me ask this - where might you want to use a ComboBox in an > application? If we can understand the use cases for such a component, the > need for it might become more apparent. > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Greg Brown wrote: > > > We don't have any plans for a dedicated ComboBox. The non-editable > "drop-down" version (a ListButton in Pivot) seems to be used much more often > in UI design, and text fields with suggestion popups are currently a more > common way of combining stock and user-editable content. So the effort to > implement a ComboBox did not seem justified. > > G > > > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 3:49 AM, A. J. wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> Is there any plan to release a ComboBox control in the future ? > >> To be honest, I was fairly astonished not to see such a common control > in Pivot. > >> I know that it is possible to create its own custom contrlol (using > buttons, suggestion popup, textfield) but I guess that many persons will > have to reimplement it just because its not part of the platform. > >> What do you think ? > >> > >> AJ > >> > >> > > > > --001517503b08916e85048fced793 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The combobox (editable version) is useful when you want to present a list o= f possible values and you want to enter a value that is not present in the = list.
You can achieve this in Pivot with a TextInput + SuggestionPopup b= ut you have no way for the user to open the list through mouse interaction = (unless you add a button of course but then you have to manage 3 components= in pivot where in other platforms you only have to deal with one).
That is where a combo is handy but I agree that functionnaly speaking, one = can use a mix of pivot controls to provide the same behaviour.
Another p= roblem is that creating a suggestion popup in pure WTKX / BXML is not very = convenient (have to attach textinput listeners, etc ..), is it even possibl= e ?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Brown <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gkbrown@mac.com= > wrote:
But let me ask this - where might you want to use a ComboBox in an applicat= ion? If we can understand the use cases for such a component, the need for = it might become more apparent.

On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Greg Brown wrote:

> We don't have any plans for a dedicated ComboBox. The non-editable= "drop-down" version (a ListButton in Pivot) seems to be used muc= h more often in UI design, and text fields with suggestion popups are curre= ntly a more common way of combining stock and user-editable content. So the= effort to implement a ComboBox did not seem justified.
> G
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 3:49 AM, A. J. wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> Is there any plan to release a ComboBox control in the future ? >> To be honest, I was fairly astonished not to see such a common con= trol in Pivot.
>> I know that it is possible to create its own custom contrlol (usin= g buttons, suggestion popup, textfield) but I guess that many persons will = have to reimplement it just because its not part of the platform.
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> AJ
>>
>>
>


--001517503b08916e85048fced793--