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From java programmer <java.programme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Newbie Apache Pivot Evaluation
Date Sun, 16 May 2010 17:53:31 GMT
Hello Greg,

Thank you very much. I think so i will be using the complete Java source
code rather then
using WTKX files as you suggested. I will design the application on paper
and then start
coding, will surely be needing your help time to time.

Many Thanks

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Clint Gilbert <
clint_gilbert@hms.harvard.edu> wrote:

> From the perspective of someone who is fairly new to Pivot and writing a
> decent-sized standalone app with it, I can say that Pivot's API is about
> 10,000 times cleaner than the other choices available for Java.  Pivot
> is quite pleasant to use.
> A GUI builder would be nice, but the Pivot API and tutorials are good
> enough that I haven't felt like I really needed one.  I tried out SWT
> and Swing on the same project.  They were both much more verbose and
> required so many fiddly settings that a GUI builder was a necessity;
> with Pivot it's a nice-to-have at best.
> I don't use WTKX as I have a general bias against coding apps in XML -
> there are too many magic strings to line up without typos, and an IDE
> can't help you refactor - so all my experience is with coding UIs in Java.
> If you need to give a standalone Java app a nice UI with little fuss, I
> recommend Pivot wholeheartedly.  The fact that an app can be deployed as
> an applet with no code changes is a nice bonus.
> java programmer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > 2- I am seeing that, Pivot is made using eclipse. Mostly what i am
> noticing for every component i need to write the code by hand. There is no
> > drag and support for components like Swing. Even to the extend i can't
> use some xml editor to find out what properties a particular element is
> > having. Is there a solution to this problem? Any DTD available?
> >
> > 3- One thing which might be needed in Pivot might be the validation
> support. Is pivot providing some validation framework like struts do? If
> not,
> > can we use some apache validations API inside the pivot application to
> perform the validations?
> >
> > 4- Is it able to integrate with Spring and Hibernate?
> >
> > 5- Do every-time if we have to use it inside the web-application, we have
> to expose it as an applet?
> >
> > 6- What is the learning curve for Apache Pivot? How many days it will
> require to fully understand the WTKX and start coding in it efficiently?
> >
> > I am looking forward to know this information.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Prithvi Sehgal
> >

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