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From Greg Brown <gkbr...@mac.com>
Subject Re: Layout component within ScrollPane
Date Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:36:23 GMT
Those are valid points. However, you could still put non-editable TextAreas in the BoxPane.
The point is that you would be taking advantage of BoxPane for your layout, rather than trying
to depend on TextArea for it.

On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Rostislav Krasny wrote:

> I agree, for chat and IM applications the top pane shouldn't be
> editable. However the Label isn't a good alternative to read-only
> TextArea. Label doesn't support multi line texts and text select/copy
> operations.
> 
> BTW Home and End keyboard buttons don't work in TextArea too.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Greg Brown <gkbrown@mac.com> wrote:
>> Right. Also, the text in the top pane is generally not editable. For
>> example, in iChat it is presented as a vertical list of read-only labels.
>> This could be accomplished in Pivot using a vertical BoxPane.
>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Todd Volkert wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW, every chat application I've used (YIM, Pidgin, Epiphany, AIM) has been
>> some variation on this theme: two panes divided vertically by a splitter.
>> The text area in the lower region is for typing your outgoing messages, and
>> the text area in the upper region is to show the conversation.  Both text
>> areas use top alignment, but the conversation window automatically scrolls
>> to bottom when new text appears.  This behavior is supported in Pivot.
>> 
>> I haven't thought through all possible use cases to decide if bottom
>> alignment in text area would ever make sense -- I'm just saying that from my
>> observations, IM clients are not a typical use case of bottom alignment.
>> 
>> -T
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rostislav Krasny <rosti.bsd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Why vertical alignment in TextArea is less likely to be implemented?
>>>>> Is it harder to be implemented than the horizontal one or some other
>>>>> reason?
>>>> 
>>>> There is not as much of a use case for vertical alignment in TextArea.
>>>> Think about a typical word processor - it supports horizontal alignment,
but
>>>> not vertical, because text is laid out from right to left and is expected
to
>>>> scroll vertically.
>>> 
>>> I can't agree with this statement. Almost all chat and IM (Instant
>>> Messaging) applications use vertical text alignment. This is always
>>> naturally enough to find a new text near the text input it was typed
>>> in and not somewhere else.
>> 
>> 
>> 


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