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From Rostislav Krasny <rosti....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Layout component within ScrollPane
Date Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:33:32 GMT
I agree, for chat and IM applications the top pane shouldn't be
editable. However the Label isn't a good alternative to read-only
TextArea. Label doesn't support multi line texts and text select/copy
operations.

BTW Home and End keyboard buttons don't work in TextArea too.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Greg Brown <gkbrown@mac.com> wrote:
> Right. Also, the text in the top pane is generally not editable. For
> example, in iChat it is presented as a vertical list of read-only labels.
> This could be accomplished in Pivot using a vertical BoxPane.
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Todd Volkert wrote:
>
> FWIW, every chat application I've used (YIM, Pidgin, Epiphany, AIM) has been
> some variation on this theme: two panes divided vertically by a splitter.
> The text area in the lower region is for typing your outgoing messages, and
> the text area in the upper region is to show the conversation.  Both text
> areas use top alignment, but the conversation window automatically scrolls
> to bottom when new text appears.  This behavior is supported in Pivot.
>
> I haven't thought through all possible use cases to decide if bottom
> alignment in text area would ever make sense -- I'm just saying that from my
> observations, IM clients are not a typical use case of bottom alignment.
>
> -T
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rostislav Krasny <rosti.bsd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> >> Why vertical alignment in TextArea is less likely to be implemented?
>> >> Is it harder to be implemented than the horizontal one or some other
>> >> reason?
>> >
>> > There is not as much of a use case for vertical alignment in TextArea.
>> > Think about a typical word processor - it supports horizontal alignment, but
>> > not vertical, because text is laid out from right to left and is expected to
>> > scroll vertically.
>>
>> I can't agree with this statement. Almost all chat and IM (Instant
>> Messaging) applications use vertical text alignment. This is always
>> naturally enough to find a new text near the text input it was typed
>> in and not somewhere else.
>
>
>

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