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From Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: Pig 0.11
Date Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:25:19 GMT
No blog posts, but a long and tortured email thread on incubator general:  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201203.mbox/%3CCAOFYJNY%3DEjVHrWVvAedR3OKwCv-BkTaCbEu0ufp7OZR_gpCTiA%40mail.gmail.com%3E

In a nutshell the logic is:

1) Apache's legal constituting documents require this, I think mostly for reason 2 below.

2) PMC members can't examine binaries.  If I generate a binary and give it to you to vote
on, how do you know I haven't nefariously hidden a virus in the binary?  With source you can
personally check everything and make sure nothing evil has been done.  The same applies to
end users who pick up the code.

3) Many Apache projects are repackaged by OS vendors, etc. (Redhat, and so on).  They prefer
source releases because they want to reconfigure the layout in their own way anyway.

Alan.

On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:

> Alan,
> 
> Are there any blog posts or whatnot explaining the logic behind this?
> 
> Just curious
> Jon
> 
> 2012/10/25 Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com>
> 
>> There's one other issue I believe we should resolve before we release
>> 0.11.  As part of my work with the Incubator I've learned that official
>> Apache releases aren't supposed to have any binary code (including any
>> jars) in them.  Due to some recent issues with projects in the incubator
>> this has become a hot topic and some Apache members/officers have become
>> keen on making sure projects are in compliance.  Obviously Pig has been in
>> violation of this for a while now (oops).  We are still free to provide
>> "convenience packages" that contain the binaries, but they cannot be what
>> we vote on or what we sign and release.
>> 
>> What this practically means for us is we need a new ant target that just
>> tars up the source and we need to change the release procedures slightly to
>> sign and checksum the resulting tarball.  We would then post both the
>> source release and the "convenience package" which would be the same
>> release we have always done.
>> 
>> All the changes for this can be done in build.xml and the build procedures
>> wiki and are thus quite low risk.  I volunteer to do it.  I believe we
>> should do this for this release to avoid any issues with Apache.
>> 
>> Alan.
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote:
>> 
>>> There are still 76 unresolved JIRAs more than half unassigned. Lets
>> clean this up by theend of this week. I propose we do the following:
>>> 
>>> (1) Unlink all JIRAs for new features since we already branched so we
>> should not be taken on new work. If people feel strongly that some new
>> features still need to go in please bring it up.
>>> (2) For bug fixes, if people fill strongly that some of the unassigned
>> issues need to be addressed please take ownership. If you are unable to
>> solve them but still feel they are important, please, bring them up.
>>> (3) Owners of unresolved issues, please, take a look if you will have
>> time to solve them in the next 2 weeks. If not, lets move them to 12. If
>> you can't address them but feel they are important, please, bring it up.
>>> 
>>> Lets make sure that all JIRAs that require changes to the documentation
>> have appropriate information in the release notes section so that we can
>> quickly compile release documentation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for you help!
>>> 
>>> Olga
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com>
>>> To: dev@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig 0.11
>>> 
>>> At this point no one has taken on release documentation for 0.11.
>>> 
>>> Alan.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Olga Natkovich wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Are you talking about items 15 and 16 on the How To Release.Publish
>> page?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, who is doing release documentation these days? I can help with
>> that as well. I would also be happy to roll the release if you guys need
>> help with that.
>>>> 
>>>> Olga
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "dev@pig.apache.org" <dev@pig.apache.org>
>>>> Cc: "dev@pig.apache.org" <dev@pig.apache.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 5:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Pig 0.11
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Olga and welcome back!
>>>> I know there's some process for linking jiras to releases, but I'm not
>> sure what that is. If you could explain and maybe cover a portion of that
>> work, that'd be super helpful. And reviews, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Olga Natkovich <onatkovich@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dmitry, I would be happy to help with the release process. Want to get
>> back into this now that I am back at work. Let me know what you would like
>> me to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Olga
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvryaboy@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: dev@pig.apache.org
>>>>> Cc: billgraham@gmail.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Pig 0.11
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok I will branch 0.11 tomorrow morning unless someone objects.
>>>>> From then on, committers should be careful to commit bug fixes to both
>>>>> 0.11 branch and trunk; minor polish can go into the branch, but whole
>>>>> new features should not (we can discuss on the list if something is in
>>>>> the gray area).
>>>>> 
>>>>> D
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
>>>>> <gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I added it as a dependency as it has already its own Jira.
>>>>>> I hope it is OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 for me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There's https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2756 which
tracks
>> a few
>>>>>>> documentation issues that should block Pig 0.11, but they can
also
>> be done
>>>>>>> on the trunk and merged to the branch. Gianmarco, you can add
a rank
>>>>>>> subtask there to serve as a reminder.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
<
>>>>>>> gdfm@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We are missing some documentation on the RANK but I guess
we could
>> add
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> to the branch and trunk in parallel.
>>>>>>>> All the patches I was keeping an eye on are in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So +1 for me.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>> jcoveney@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think all of the major patches are in, no? Now it's
just bug
>> testing?
>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to touch base on where we are at with this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please
email
>> me at
>>>>>>> billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
>> 
>> 


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