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Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:04:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:03:59 +0000 (UTC) From: "larsh@apache.org" To: dev@phoenix.apache.org Message-ID: <1505976278.7570880.1579025039790@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <782431fa-5183-6e1a-9963-05032fbfe161@apache.org> References: <1864069705.6900273.1578882247112.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1864069705.6900273.1578882247112@mail.yahoo.com> <782431fa-5183-6e1a-9963-05032fbfe161@apache.org> Subject: Re: Committers please look at the Phoenix tests and fix your failures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7570879_1933669096.1579025039788" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.14873 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.70 Safari/537.36 ------=_Part_7570879_1933669096.1579025039788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I spent a lot of time making QA better. It can be better, but it's stable enough. There're now very little excuses. "Test failure seems unrelated" is not an excuse anymore.(4.x-HBase-1.3 has some issue where HBase can't seem to start a cluster reliably... but all others are pretty stable.) After chatting with Andrew Purtell, one things I was going to offer is to simply revert any change that breaks a test. Period.I'd volunteer some of my time (hey, isn't that what a Chief Architect in a Fortune 100 company should do?!) With their changes reverted, people will presumably start to care. :)If I hear no objects I'll start doing that a while. Cheers. -- Lars On Monday, January 13, 2020, 06:23:01 PM PST, Josh Elser wrote: How do we keep getting into this mess: unreliable QA, people ignoring QA, or something else? On 1/12/20 9:24 PM, larsh@apache.org wrote: > ... Not much else to say here... > The tests have been failing again for a while... I will NOT fix them again this time! Sorry folks. > > -- Lars > > ------=_Part_7570879_1933669096.1579025039788--