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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 09:52:27 +0100
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Hello.

I am catching this at the end, but the general subject interests me, and I'd like to know 
more. Should I start a new thread ? and what best to name it ?

My situation : I am not a hot-shot programmer nor perl expert, but over time I have 
written quite a few mod_perl-based pieces of code, roughly in 2 categories :
1) one category which interacts quite heavily with the Apache request processing phases 
and with the Request object, such as authentication, various kinds of proxying, wraps 
around DAV to make it do what I want, output filters etc.
2) another category of things which could have been done using CGI and Apache::Registry 
(processing <form> submits etc.), but since I was already doing the first kind above, I've 
done these by creating add-on mod_perl modules instead. (Which do sometimes rely on 
something that has been done by the first category, like $r->pnotes).

But if really "It is now the recommended approach to PHP and other scripting endpoints" 
(including, I suppose, perl), it looks like I would slowly have to change my strategy.

If I understand the general idea correctly, it consists of no longer running complicated 
and memory-hungry things directly in Apache through mod_perl, but to use Apache as a 
front-end reverse proxy, and proxy such calls to one or more back-end processes having 
their own persistent perl (or other) interpreter. Is that correct ?

Intuitively, I would imagine that the approach below fits my second category more than the 
first, right ?
So, for the second type, where could I best start reading ?

(Contrarily to the original poster, I am perfectly happy with Perl 5, and not looking at 
Perl 6 yet. I am also not really a fan of very abstract "frameworks", because of their 
general "all or nothing" approach. Template::Toolkit is about my limit).


On 09.03.2017 04:30, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> Explore the idea of wrapping your app as an fcgid endpoint. Httpd has two
> options (mod_fcgid managing the pool, and mod_proxy_fcgi with your own
> choice of independent pool management.)
>
> This offers the best of both... Larger number of httpd endpoints and less
> contention between fcgi processes. It is now the recommended approach to
> PHP and other scripting endpoints.
>
> On Feb 19, 2017 06:50, "Tom Browder" <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 00:44 Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> writes:
>
> ...
>
>>
> Randall, I do know that, and I love Perl 6!  I also feel comfortable
> writing CGI programs, so how can I use both most efficiently with my apache
> web server.?
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>
> P.S. I enjoyed meeting you and shaking hands with you at YAPC::NA::2016.
> Thanks for all your contributions to the Perl community!
>