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From André Warnier>
Subject Re: Interrupting a POST with file upload
Date Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:48:59 GMT
Torsten Förtsch wrote:
> On Wednesday, 08 February 2012 10:14:35 André Warnier wrote:
>> As far as I know, LimitRequestBody is an absolute POST size limit set once
>> and for all in  the server config, and valid for all POSTs (and PUTs) after
>> server restart.
> If you look at the docs you'll find that LimitRequestBody is valid in "server 
> config, virtual host, directory and .htaccess" contexts. That means you can 
> modify it on a per-request basis via $r->add_config. So, assuming 
> authentication takes place in httpd's authentication phase you can set the 
> limit in a PerlFixupHandler per user.
>> And it is calculated on the base of the real bytes being
>> sent by the browser, this including the overhead caused by Base64 encoding
>> the content of a file sent for example. (So that if you set the limit to
>> 1MB, this will actually kick in as soon as the net unencoded size of the
>> file being uploaded exceeds 660KB or so.)
> True. But with HTTP/1.1 the client can also choose to send the body deflated. 
> Thus, the actual file size may also exceed 1MB.
>> Then there is the $CGI_POST_MAX, which may very well be the same server
>> value being  manipulated by the CGI module, or it may be a private copy by
>>  What is not really clear is if that value is "thread-safe" in all
>> scenarios.
> is pure perl. So, to make $CGI_POST_MAX shared among threads it has to 
> declare it as such. I doubt that any sane developer would do that.
>> In the normal scenario, when retrieving the uploaded file's handle via the
>> call to  param(file_input_name) or upload(file_input_name), what one
>> actually gets is a handle onto a local temporary file, into which
>> Apache/ has already stored the whole content of the uploaded
>> file.  By that time, the original file upload from the browser has already
>> happened, so doing something at this point would be too late to interrupt
>> the browser POST itself (and the bandwidth and time have already been
>> spent).
> True.
>> On the other hand, the documentation seems to say that if one uses
>> the "hook"  functionality for a file upload, then Apache/ do not use
>> a temporary file, and one gets a handle directly into the POST body content
>> (so to speak), as it is being received by Apache.  And thus this could be a
>> way to achieve what Mike wants.
> yes and no. It depends upon what exactly you want to limit. On the internet 
> data is buffered by routers, firewalls etc. On your server it is buffered by 
> the kernel. Httpd adds it's own buffering. HTTP is TCP-based. So, there may be 
> retransmits that you won't notice. You certainly may abort the transfer when 
> the hook has received a certain amount of data. But that would not mean 
> that your server or your organization has not yet received the whole body.
> So, if you want to limit the disk usage then yes, you can simply stop writing 
> when the limit is reached. If you want to limit the amount of data your server 
> receives then no.
> Best would be if you could make an educated guess based on the Content-Length 
> request header if the uploaded file will exceed the limit. Most clients send 
> an "Expect: 100-continue" header and thus give the server a chance to decline 
> the request *before* the body is sent. If the body is already on the way the 
> only thing you can do is to close the connection. I don't know if httpd does 
> that immediately or if it reads and discards the whole body.
>> (I suppose that we can assume that even
>> though we get a handle into the POST body content, what we are reading is
>> the decoded data, right ?).
> The code below is the relevant piece of So, yes, the upload hook gets 
> the data as it is written to the temp file.
>   while (defined($data = $buffer->read)) {
>     if (defined $self->{'.upload_hook'}) {
>       $totalbytes += length($data);
>       &{$self->{'.upload_hook'}}($filename ,$data, $totalbytes,
>                                  $self->{'.upload_data'});
>     }
>     print $filehandle $data if ($self->{'use_tempfile'});
>   }
> Torsten Förtsch

Many, many thanks Torsten. This is all precious and usable information.

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