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From Igor Chudov <>
Subject News regarding mod_perl returning empty pages
Date Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:20:16 GMT
I have an update on this story.

I set up a shell script that would notice this condition (empty pages
returned) and alert me immediately via "wall" within 10 seconds.

So I caught this in progress, before my 5 minute restarter would intervene,
and experimented quickly.

As I mentioned before, I have perlbal running in front on port 80, with
apache listening on localhost port 10080 and serving perlbal.

Since we discussed perlbal, I tried to access instead of ( resolves to and is an alias for

Results were materially different: instead of 100% failures that I had with
perlbal, I would only fail one out of many times.

The failure became intermittent instead of constant.

I believe that I have an explanation: only one worker happens to be messed
up. When I access apache directly, I would connect to a random worker, so my
failure would be intermittent. However, perlbal was set (in perlbal.conf) to
maintain persistent connection, so it would mostly bang on one worker
instead of randomly hitting them.

As a result, with perlbal, if that worker goes bad, then the whole website
is consistently not working.

In other words, perlbal is not the issue, as such, but it exacerbated the
problem due to the way I set it up.

I changed perlbal.conf to set persist_backend = off, which, I hope, will
have an effect of perlbal creating a separate connection for every request.
Should not have much effect, speed wise, since everything runs on localhost,
I hope.

My new perlbal.conf is included:

REATE POOL dynamic
  pool dynamic add

  SET listen           =
  SET role             = reverse_proxy
  SET pool             = dynamic
  SET persist_client  = on
  SET persist_backend = off
  SET verify_backend  = on
ENABLE balancer

# always good to keep an internal management port open:
  SET role   = management
  SET listen =

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