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From Octavian R√Ęsnita <orasn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: decline and fall of modperl?
Date Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:36 GMT
From: Rolf Banting 
  Foo JH wrote:
  > In the academia the general directive in choosing a language would be
  > something to this effect:
  > 1. teach modern language concepts, such as OO
  > 2. minimise the learning curve by way of something easy to teach, easy
  > to learn without having to figure out all the details of programming
  > 3. introduce the students to a language that will make them attractive
  > to the general market
  >
  > You probably have a feel why Perl isn't a strong choice given these
  > objectives.

  > On points 1 & 2:
  > 1. Perl supports more programming paradigms than Java.
  > 2. You write fewer lines of perl to get things done than you do in Java.

  1. I don't know what it means that perl supports more paradigms than Java, but I know that
the Java / C# OOP style is usually considered a much complete and better standard than one
used by Perl.
  Java / DotNet support interfaces, so the classes they create respect the "contracts" better,
while in perl world, the programmer is free, and nobody points a shotgun to him in order to
force him to do it.

  Java and C# uses a dot notation for separating the classes when using the OOP style, and
even Template-Toolkit uses it, but perl uses something else.

  2. It is right that perl is probably one of the most productive languages, because it requires
to write very little code, for doing very many things.
  But for doing the same thing, Ruby and Python can use sometimes even less code, because
they don't use so much punctuation and funny chars.

  And anyway, for the beginners, this is not a big problem. The biggest problem is that perl
is harder to learn. The programmers might want to learn a language for a year, and get a job,
and after this they hope that they will find time to learn the chosen language better while
they have a job.

  We could say that perl would be really great for these days if we could say about it something
like:
  - It is the most easy to learn language even by the most stupid programmers.
  - It can create portable programs that can run everywhere, under Windows, Mac, Linux, shared
hosting web sites that don't offer root and shell access...
  - The source code of the programs can be hidden.
  - There are very many recent books that teach Perl.
  - Perl is chosen by bigger companies like IBM, Oracle, Microsoft, Sun, Yahoo, Google, SAP.
  - The popular sites like Twitter, Digg, Facebook, MySpace, Wikipedia, are powered by perl.
  - There are important other software made in Perl which are used much these days, like a
mailing list manager, a web server, financial charting software, stock exchange trading applications,
etc.

  ...and other things like these. But unfortunately in the last years I've seen only reports
about the decreasing number of sites that use Perl.

  Octavian

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