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From Perl Junkie <>
Subject Re: decline and fall of modperl?
Date Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:31:18 GMT
Byrne Reese wrote:
>> The problem is that there are no very many big sites that use perl 
>> either.
>> I knew that Amazon used Perl, than tried to use Java, than... I don't 
>> know what they use now.
>> Google uses Python, Yahoo uses PHP, Microsoft probably uses DotNet 
>> and Sun probably uses Java.
> I will add:
> * LiveJournal
> * TypePad
> * Vox
> * Popular MT sites like:
>   - Huffington Post
>   - Gothamist
>   - Talking Points Memo
>   - many, many, many more of course
As far as I know, these sites also use Perl or mod_perl:

o Internet Movie Database (Amazon)
o TicketMaster (last I checked, but that was a couple of years ago and 
they were recently sold or bought or something)
o PBS Online

I also know that a very large international cosmetics company uses 
mod_perl quite extensively.  I've done some work for them and I don't 
know if or how they would care for their name being mentioned here, so I 
won't, but...  If you want "large" -- they define "large."

I wouldn't "count" a company that uses a Perl "product" or CMS or some 
sort (such as MT) as a "perl site" in the strict sense of the word.  
Some of the techies at places like Huffington Post may be aware of the 
underlying technology, but I doubt very much that "Perl" itself drove 
the decision as much as the great work that Ben and Mena Trott did at in creating such a product.

And I have to chime in and say I've seen plenty of ugly, ridiculous code 
written in every language imaginable (everyone's precious "Java" and JEE 
very much included.)  It's not a product of the language as much as the 
language bearer.  Sorry.  That's always been the case.  Margin for error 
on a tight mountain road doesn't automatically a bad driver make -- only 
the one who will not heed the type of road and car he's in in the 
situation.  Anyone can zoom through an intersection full of traffic on a 
wide-open, flat country road as well.  The road being the intent and 
direction and the car being Perl (and pretty cotton-pickin' good one, I 
might add), I don't see the correlation here.  Again, this is clever 
smoke and mirrors by consultants with a different agenda and product to 
sell.  The craft of programming and development are only slightly 
impacted by these kinds of things.


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