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From Boysenberry Payne <>
Subject Re: Flex
Date Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:30:12 GMT
I currently use the ruby gem sprouts for compiling Flex apps.  I  
would love to see a version
packaged for a mod_perl system.  It really is all about learning what  
makes the flex compiler
work then strapping to perl instead of php or ruby.  I would love to  
help with a project like this
but don't have the resources to take point.

Our website builder is completely mod_perl on the backend and uses  
Flash on the front/middle.
We also have html output too:

Our system could benefit a lot from being able to compile SWFs on the  
fly; right now they're all
static files loaded dynamically.  I could see making them dynamically  
as needed, while still serving
up the static renditions.


On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Will Fould wrote:

> So, we're using Flex now for a couple neat tools that started as an  
> (real simple) experiment with some feeds we produce.  I'm sure a  
> lot of other front end developers are too and just don't realize  
> that they are connecting to modperl backends. Subtle details aside,  
> Flex is cool at this point for limited stuff (think admin and site  
> builder/configuration tools, etc.). Especially with the ubiquity of  
> the flash RTE and the buzz around AIR.  But we also use Ajax quite  
> a bit and like that too.
> For those that have not updated their buzzword file lately: Flex is  
> a client application building platform that connects easily to  
> services - The Flex sdk, etc., (yes, from Adobe) have recently been  
> open-sourced (ala Mozilla).  At first glance, Flex appears to be  
> just Flash (using .swf files and the flash RTE) but it does not  
> require the backwards animation-style dev-metaphor of flash - It's  
> basically a very different game all together and there is a lot of  
> documentation out there about what makes it different. (Google:  
> "Flex verses Flash")
> At this point, in no way will Flex applications substitute core web/ 
> browser stuff for us (or even some browser stuff that work very  
> well and simply with ajax), but it does make a lot of sense in  
> certain key places where a browser is still quite kludgey.   
> Frankly, it's also nice for recruiting right now (Perrin: Looking  
> for a new job?  LOL.)
> In any case, it would be nice to see more traction using modperl 
> +Flex.  While it makes a lot of sense from where I sit - it's true:  
> Google provides virtual no pages that share those key words - a sad  
> and curious surprise especially considering the fact the O'Reilly  
> Flex book has actually reached the popularity of the Perl DBI book  
> (according to the O'Reilly amazon rep).  Perhaps a page on the  
> site would do a LOT of good for this community which is  
> certainly much larger than the Perl Marketing department  
> indicates ; ).
> Any other reference sites or tools?
> On Dec 2, 2007 3:06 PM, Perrin Harkins <> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2007 3:22 PM, Will Fould <> wrote:
> > Have you thought about it too?
> Yes.  It sounds possibly quicker than AJAX, which is pretty
> time-consuming to develop for anything non-trivial.  (Google makes it
> look easy, but they probably spent millions debugging those maps on
> multiple browsers.)  I haven't tried it, but my approach would be to
> convert one of the PHP examples.
> - Perrin

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