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From Jonathan Vanasco <>
Subject Re: previously viewed (within 1 minute) dynamic pages don't get updated unless I hit refresh
Date Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:17:03 GMT

On Oct 29, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Scott Kaplan wrote:

> I tried this on multiple browsers and on multiple machines.  I have
> the browsers all setup to not cache anything.

Never trust a browser.  Try using wget/curl.

> If I wait more than 1 minute between visiting the same dynamic  
> page, I don't have the problem.

Are you testing locally?  That sounds a lot like caching, either in  
the browser or on a proxy server between you and the server ( a lot  
of ISP's do that )

> If I visit a recent dynamic page within a minute, I have to hit  
> refresh and only then do I get the most recent stuff.

That sounds exactly like browser caching.

> This is most annoying and not web safe.  I am convinced that there  
> is a
> configuration setting somewhere that is telling Apache to not
> interpret/compile any script that has been recently visited (within 1
> minute in my case).  I searched through httpd.conf and I couldn't find
> anything.

If Apache were to blame, hitting refresh wouldn't have an effect.

On Oct 29, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Dondi M. Stroma wrote:
> We will need more details though; is this your own Perl handler, an  
> Apache::Registry script, or something else?

Agreed.  Also, what dynamic content is changing: sql content ?   
dynamically generated stuff?  or did you mean that you changed a  
script, and you expected it to be different (then you get into  
Apache::Reload and multiple server instances issues)

> How are you generating the response headers? Apache::Request?  
>  Do you "use strict" and "use warnings"? Check for any  
> "will not stay shared" warnings and make sure you don't use "my"  
> variables in a subroutine that were declared outside of it.

from what he described, it doesn't sound like it could be scoping- -  
but it never hurts to double check.  make triple sure that you're  
using warnings, and everything is scoped correctly.

there's a slim chance that you're experiencing this:

		multiple apache children
		poor variable scoping

		request 1 is on pid X , everything happens fine
		request 2 is on pid X , poor scoping gives same content as request 1
		request 2 is on pid Y , everything happens fine ( new content is  
generated )

it doesn't sound like that's happening, but its possible.  usually  
stuff like that manifests itself with Apache2::Reload issues.

> Finally, you may wish to try setting "Pragma" and "Cache-Control"  
> headers.
+1 on that.

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