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From: "Kevin A. McGrail" <kmcgrail@pccc.com>
To: "Perrin Harkins" <perrin@elem.com>
Cc: <daniel@webclients.net>, <modperl@perl.apache.org>
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Subject: Re: Receiving user input
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:27:16 -0400
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As I stated, these routines were written before CGI.pm became a standard 
module and we also have > 250K lines of perl code built on top of it just 
for one installation I reviewed.

Anyway, for people wanting a non-CGI.pm way to do things, we've used this 
routine for billions upon billions of page views.  That's what he asked for, 
that's what I sent him.

PerlCMS (where this routine came from), is our framework.  I hope to open 
source it sooner rather than later for many reasons, one of them being that 
it solves a lot of problems that other frameworks do not.  The other being, 
as you said, being able to get people that are trained in it.  The foremost 
being that peer review and other people adding to the code is beneficial to 
everyone.

However, with regards to people trained in one library or another, 
fundamentally my view is that programming is a state of mind, not a 
language.  A "real" programmer should be able to come up to speed easily in 
about a week in almost any programming language with a little bit of source 
code to look at, a peer to point him in the correct directions and a few 
syntax books for reference.

Regards,
KAM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Perrin Harkins" <perrin@elem.com>
To: "Kevin A. McGrail" <kmcgrail@pccc.com>
Cc: <daniel@webclients.net>; <modperl@perl.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Receiving user input


> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:45 -0400, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>> Attached is our function that we use both under mod_perl and standard
>> perl.
>
> No offense, but you'd be much better off using one of the standard
> parsers, like CGI.pm or libapreq.  These get a lot of peer review and
> the bugs have been pretty well shaken out over the years.  If you think
> it's easy to get these things right, take a look at the CGI.pm
> changelog.
>
> - Perrin
>