Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-perl-modperl-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54359 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2004 22:39:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jun 2004 22:39:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3428 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2004 22:39:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-perl-modperl-archive@perl.apache.org Received: (qmail 3410 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2004 22:39:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact modperl-help@perl.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list modperl@perl.apache.org Received: (qmail 3378 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jun 2004 22:39:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20040608223850.12743.qmail@web52810.mail.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: catfishhacker Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 15:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Shiflett Reply-To: shiflett@php.net Subject: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger To: modperl@att.net, Modperl List In-Reply-To: <060820042105.11354.40C62A060007137000002C5A2160280741049D0A9F0B0103@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --- modperl@att.net wrote: > BTW, I programmed a mod_perl based BBS system for a site. It got > almost 200,000 (!) unique IP hits every day with the dual set-up > (plain apache + mod_perl). This might be an example where others > such as php and java servlet can't compete. Right? Not in my opinion. Both PHP and mod_perl are mature enough that performance differences are more likely to be due to the design of an application rather than the language it is written in. I've written applications in PHP that currently handle over 10 million requests a day (the environment consists of four servers), and there's still room to grow. With a compiler cache and an intelligent design (including data storage), PHP can handle just about anything (look at Yahoo). I personally think mod_perl's strengths are in its rich feature set. Only after watching a few of Geoff's talks (and one of Stas's) did I realize exactly what PHP developers are missing. They speak about things like ties, closures, and globs. Plus, PHP is limited to the content generation phase, so mod_perl has a pretty big advantage there. Geoff describes mod_perl as the Apache API in Perl. While this is probably obvious to all of you, it's not something I realized on my own. Of course, CPAN is also a pretty big trump card. :-) Chris -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html