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From Kee Hinckley <>
Subject RE: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger
Date Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:46:56 GMT
At 9:51 AM -0700 6/9/04, Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote:
>lot, but you get the point. Until people can pick a cheap, reliable, and
>well-known hosting service where mod_perl is one of the main options, you

But it has to be more than mod_perl.  mod_perl is far too low-level. 
Even Embperl or Mason require too much work to get started.  It 
absolutely has to be a layer above that.  You want something that 
provides the basic tools right up front, so that your typical web 
site (feedback forms, press releases...) is a no-brainer, and after 
that the user is hooked.  What we could really use is a company that 
fills the RedHat/Cygnus space for Perl, pulling all the separate 
components together into a useful whole, and adding new glue where 
necessary.  And for maximum leverage, part of that glue should be a 
mod_perl-based version of what's currently available in PHP, for use 
as a transition tool.  It's not too late, but it's getting close.
Kee Hinckley         Next Generation Spam Defense  Writings on Technology and Society

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.

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