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From "Khachaturov, Vassilii" <>
Subject RE: AxKit Shutdown
Date Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:55:35 GMT
Matt, this is exactly the sort of thing that I am telling is 
obscuring the access to AxKit. OK, you have the domain name 
problems because you chose to first shut the old one down,
and then to put the new one up, not the other way around. 
Whatever it is, right now people have to go to the modperl list 
for this thread to learn how to get to the site,
which currently is essentially part of the overall axkit 
documentation. AxKit is available for free, and hence I am 
not expecting perfect documentation in the man pages,
and I understand the need to go to the sources *occasionally* 
for advanced tasks, but if you say in the mans every other 
sentence for the new users to go to, and 
is not there, that's tough. As long as a very simple change 
can eliminate this problem, and give you more excuses 
for further delaying the doc polishing :)

I mean, can you PLEASE release a new AxKit, a minor 
update, with basically just the root manpage and README 
file updated, to say smth like:

"Currently, is experiencing DNS hosting problems. 
If you are unable to access the site, please add the 
following to your /etc/hosts:

Please stay tuned to ... [whatever you prefer here - 
maybe, axkit-users? maybe, a new list for moderate volume
axkit announcements for updates on the new releases
and problems like this?] in order to know when
this kludge can be removed..."

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Sergeant []
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:43 AM
> To: 'Patrick'
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: AxKit Shutdown
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick []
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:48:52AM -0000, Matt Sergeant took 
> > time to write:
> > > This is sad indeed. Once everything is up and running again 
> > I'll write a
> > > complete document of the nightmares that getting it back up 
> > again has been
> > > and post it to the mod_perl and axkit lists.
> > > 
> > > Meanwhile you can get there at - the 
> > mailing list
> > > links are back to, so you need to edit the links 
> > with the IP
> > > address again.
> > > 
> > > Sorry for the downtime, it's *really* not my fault. Blame 
> > NetSol, and Demon,
> > > and BT, and ClaraNet (get the idea yet?).
> > 
> > This is understandable. However I'm sure that some people 
> may like to
> > host mirrors for you.
> > I already offered you in private email to be a secondary NS for your
> > domain names so that network outages have less 
> consequences. It still
> > stands.
> As I've said to everyone of these offers: mirroring isn't the 
> problem right
> now - the web site is up at, it just 
> doesn't have the
> domain name. We don't really get the sort of traffic that 
> requires a mirror
> for bandwidth problems, and I've yet to get a complaint that 
> it's down.
> Thanks though.
> Matt.
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