From embperl-return-9252-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@perl.apache.org Sun May 27 17:46:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 42D68180663 for ; Sun, 27 May 2018 17:46:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 37502 invoked by uid 500); 27 May 2018 15:46:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact embperl-help@perl.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list embperl@perl.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for embperl@perl.apache.org Received: (qmail 35271 invoked by uid 99); 27 May 2018 15:44:41 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.99 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.99 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=disabled X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rz.ecos.de Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 17:44:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Gerald Richter To: Dominic Hargreaves Cc: embperl@perl.apache.org Message-ID: <1054252523.130182.1527435870921.JavaMail.zimbra@ecos.de> In-Reply-To: <20180521102949.gnqqryrhqomasw4r@urchin.earth.li> References: <20180521102949.gnqqryrhqomasw4r@urchin.earth.li> Subject: Re: Proposal to remove Embperl from Debian MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [10.133.11.109] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.8.8_GA_2026 (ZimbraWebClient - FF60 (Win)/8.8.8_GA_2009) Thread-Topic: Proposal to remove Embperl from Debian Thread-Index: HMIGW2j/cBpdx3UJlF7jUjixMzm4DQ== Hi, I know it's some years ago that I did the last release of Embperl. Also I p= ersonally still use it in our company, I didn't had the time to prepare new= releases. As Dominic already wrote it's usually not much effort to adapt it to a new = Perl version, but setting up the test environment takes time. So if anybody can help with testing, I would like to keep Embperl working a= nd also as part of Debian (any other distros). Dominic, currently I have only rare access to my email. So if possible, can= we shift the decission how to continue until mid of june? Thanks for all your work you put in Debian and Embperl=20 Regards Gerald ----- Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mail ----- Von: "Dominic Hargreaves" An: embperl@perl.apache.org Gesendet: Montag, 21. Mai 2018 12:29:49 Betreff: Proposal to remove Embperl from Debian Hi, As you can see from the message below, we are considering removing Embperl from Debian because of concerns about not being actively maintained. We have had to patch it several times to cope with changes in newer upstream versions over the past few years, and we don't think it is really being used much in Debian any more. Interested if anyone has any thoughts on this from the user or upstream dev perspective. Best, Dominic. ----- Forwarded message from Dominic Hargreaves ----- Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 17:08:38 +0200 From: Dominic Hargreaves To: submit@bugs.debian.org Subject: Bug#899021: libembperl-perl: FTBFS with Perl 5.27, unmaintained =09upstream Reply-To: Dominic Hargreaves , 899021@bugs.debian.org Source: libembperl-perl Version: 2.5.0-11 Severity: serious Justification: unmaintained upstream, and will shortly break in Debian X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org User: debian-perl@lists.debian.org Usertags: perl-5.28-transition hh2018 The upstream version of this package has not worked since 5.18, and we have had to apply several fixes in Debian since. The build has now broken again with Perl 5.27: http://perl.debian.net/rebuild-logs/perl-5.27-throwaway/libembperl-perl_2.5= .0-11/libembperl-perl_2.5.0-11_amd64-2018-05-18T08:09:28Z.build The problem in this case might not be that hard to fix, but I have been consisdering deprecating/removing this for some time, as there is a limit to how long we can be de facto upstream for this type of package. Currently the package has a popcon of inst: 37 / vote: 22 / recent: 1 suggesting that it is barely used anywhere. So I suggest that rather than spending any more time maintaining it, we remove it from Debian. CC to debian-perl to get wider exposure of the proposal. Cheers, Dominic. ----- End forwarded message ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe@perl.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help@perl.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe@perl.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help@perl.apache.org