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From Dominic Hargreaves <...@earth.li>
Subject Re: Proposal to remove Embperl from Debian
Date Wed, 30 May 2018 16:13:22 GMT
Hi Gerald,

There is no huge rush to make any change in Debian. Right now it's blocked
from being released by this bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=899021

That status can be changed up until the freeze (which is not for several
months), or until we decide to remove it from Debian unstable completely.
However I think it will be difficult to argue that it should remain in
the next stable release without some movement on the upstream side
towards supporting current perl environments.

Best,
Dominic.

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 05:44:30PM +0200, Gerald Richter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know it's some years ago that I did the last release of Embperl. Also I personally
still use it in our company, I didn't had the time to prepare new releases.
> 
> As Dominic already wrote it's usually not much effort to adapt it to a new Perl version,
but setting up the test environment takes time.
> 
> So if anybody can help with testing, I would like to keep Embperl working and also as
part of Debian (any other distros).
> 
> Dominic, currently I have only rare access to my email. So if possible, can we shift
the decission how to continue until mid of june?
> 
> Thanks for all your work you put in Debian and Embperl 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 
> ----- Urspr√ľngliche Mail -----
> Von: "Dominic Hargreaves" <dom@earth.li>
> An: embperl@perl.apache.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 21. Mai 2018 12:29:49
> Betreff: Proposal to remove Embperl from Debian
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As you can see from the message below, we are considering removing Embperl
> from Debian because of concerns about not being actively maintained. We
> have had to patch it several times to cope with changes in newer upstream
> versions over the past few years, and we don't think it is really being
> used much in Debian any more.
> 
> Interested if anyone has any thoughts on this from the user or upstream
> dev perspective.
> 
> Best,
> Dominic.
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li> -----
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 17:08:38 +0200
> From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>
> To: submit@bugs.debian.org
> Subject: Bug#899021: libembperl-perl: FTBFS with Perl 5.27, unmaintained
> 	upstream
> Reply-To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 899021@bugs.debian.org
> 
> Source: libembperl-perl
> Version: 2.5.0-11
> Severity: serious
> Justification: unmaintained upstream, and will shortly break in Debian
> X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org
> User: debian-perl@lists.debian.org
> Usertags: perl-5.28-transition hh2018
> 
> The upstream version of this package has not worked since 5.18, and we
> have had to apply several fixes in Debian since. The build has now
> broken again with Perl 5.27:
> 
> http://perl.debian.net/rebuild-logs/perl-5.27-throwaway/libembperl-perl_2.5.0-11/libembperl-perl_2.5.0-11_amd64-2018-05-18T08:09:28Z.build
> 
> The problem in this case might not be that hard to fix, but I have
> been consisdering deprecating/removing this for some time, as there is
> a limit to how long we can be de facto upstream for this type of
> package.
> 
> Currently the package has a popcon of inst: 37 / vote: 22 / recent: 1
> suggesting that it is barely used anywhere. So I suggest that rather than
> spending any more time maintaining it, we remove it from Debian.
> 
> CC to debian-perl to get wider exposure of the proposal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dominic.
> 
> 
> 
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