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From "Hall, Philippe" <philippe.h...@augustachronicle.com>
Subject RE: Some philosophical questions
Date Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:15:02 GMT
My colleague, Nick Deyoe, and I spent some time late last week
experimenting with MediaWiki (PHP app) for this purpose.  We were hoping
to offer hosting and support for the Wiki if we get it working to our
satisfaction.

Here's what we put together so far -- it's the default installation at
this point:
	
	http://tp02.7thstreetmedia.com/wiki/

Neil, if you want to take a crack at it on your server with the
Kwiki.org's software, I say go for it.  We're absolutely swamped, so I
don't know how long it would take us to get it up and running.
Embperl.net sounds pretty good to me.

Your idea of writing Wiki software in EmbPerl is great, and it would
really provide a good example of how EmbPerl is at least as good as PHP
for doing these kinds of things, even if we know it's actually better ;)



Philippe Hall





-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Gunton [mailto:neil@nilspace.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:11 AM
To: Gerald Richter
Cc: embperl@perl.apache.org
Subject: Re: Some philosophical questions

Gerald Richter wrote:
>>I will investigate, as time allows, the different Wiki 
>>toolkits that are available out there and see if there is 
>>anything that looks like being a good fit here. 
> 
> I suggest www.kwiki.org, if anybody has any better idea let me know
> 

Ok, looks fine to me. It's a start, unless someone knows of a better
Wiki package... so, where to 
host this?

The following are available:

embperl.net
embperlwiki.org/com/net
embperlcommunity.org/com/net
embperldoc.org/com/net

Embperl.net is nice because it's short and simple, and the ".net" suffix
has a nice connotation of a 
"network of people" (I know, I know, .net was supposed to be for ISPs,
but that hasn't really held 
true for a while now). On the other hand embperlwiki.org is perhaps more
descriptive, but longer and 
maybe a little harder to remember.

Other ideas welcomed. I guess I could host it as a subdomain under one
of my existing ones, but I 
think it would be better and more flexible, and more easily transferred
to someone else, if we put 
it on its own domain. Failing that, how about embperlwiki.perl.org? Do
the perl.org folks let people 
do that, when the server is on someone else's IP address? I have no
idea. In any case, it should be 
a domain that is not too tied to an individual, so that it can be passed
on easily.

I am happy to register whichever domain is decided on, and host it on my
server to get it started. I 
can also start the documentation effort, as I have time.

Incidentally, wouldn't it be nice to have a Wiki package written in
Embperl, and then host the 
Embperl Wiki using this? Kinda self-referential. I don't really have a
good handle on how complex a 
Wiki package would be. I feel like it's just a content management system
with anonymous edits and a 
database backend, with version control. Probably a lot more to it than
first sight, as usual. Does 
anybody think there's any good reason to roll our own as a showcase for
Embperl? Are the other Wikis 
out there missing something that would be good to have?

/Neil

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