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From Neil Gunton <n...@nilspace.com>
Subject Re: Some philosophical questions
Date Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:16:04 GMT
Hall, Philippe wrote:
> I love EmbPerl -- I've been using it for 3 or 4 years now.  I'd love to
> see it climb out of obscurity.

I agree! Just to be clear (reading back over my emails) none of this is really directed at
Gerald. I 
love Embperl too, and plan to continue using it heavily.

You're right, that was a little depressing, but it's representative of what's happening all
the time 
in the industry, I think. It's a question of awareness. I think the simple truth is that a
lot of 
people still think "perl == dinosaur" and "perl == slow cgi scripts". Perl is a victim of
its own 
early success on the Web, when CGI was all there was. Perl ruled, but then people made better

solutions, including mod_perl - but by then the associations were already made.

Perhaps what we need is an Embperl O'Reilly book. I think there was one planned in Germany
(by 
Gerald), but it got canceled for some reason.

O'Reilly or otherwise, if you have a good reference book on the shelves, that makes it a whole
lot 
more accessible to people. Hopefully now that 2.0 is maturing, the API will remain the way
it is for 
a good while, so the book doesn't go out of date.

I don't really feel qualified any more to write an Embperl book - 2.0 has a number of new
features 
which I find a little mysterious - recipes, for example. Is anyone actually using these things?
I'd 
be interested in "real life" case studies to make these wonderful new features come to life.
For me, 
personally, all I want/need at the moment is the bare ability to embed the Perl in my pages,
and 
have the "object oriented" organizational capabilities of Embperl::Object.

-Neil

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