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From: "Gerald Richter" <richter@ecos.de>
To: "'Stefan Cars'" <stefan@snowfall.se>,
	"'Gary Shea'" <shea@gtsdesign.com>
Cc: "'Embperl Mailing List'" <embperl@perl.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Call for Partners: Embperl multi-threading issues fix
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:31:32 +0100
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Hi,

> 
> We would be happy to be involved. My question is though, how 
> well does threads work in mod_perl nowadays , from what I 
> understand mod_perl also needs alot of working to be working 
> good and fast using threads ?
> 

As far as I am aware everything that is needed to run Embperl in a threaded
mod_perl is working without problems. The only thing is that you need a
recent Perl version (at least 5.8.2)

Gerald


> / Stefan
> 
> Gary Shea wrote:
> > We are all aware of the multi-threading issues with Embperl 
> that make 
> > it impractical for use with Apache2/mod_perl.  To recap, 
> the only way 
> > Embperl can be used in a multi-threaded environment is if 
> it is run in 
> > a single thread.  This is of course a serious bottleneck 
> and prevents 
> > the Embperl user from getting the full benefit of Apache2's 
> > multi-threaded MPMs.  iTransact, Inc. is looking for 
> partners to help 
> > get this problem fixed.
> > 
> > We're hoping to gather the resources of this list and share 
> the cost 
> > of fixing Embperl.  Gerald Richter of ECOS has given us a quote:
> > 
> > 
> >>> ... would you be willing to give us an estimate of how much you'd 
> >>>charge to do the fix?
> >>>
> >>
> >>I guess it will be a week of work and another week for 
> sorting out all 
> >>these "little" issues coming up after a first alpha release.
> >>
> >>We normally take 640Euro/day. If you get enough money to at 
> least pay 
> >>the first week of work, I can do it, of course it would be 
> nice to get 
> >>the second weeks payed also...
> >>
> >>Thanks & Regards
> >>
> >>Gerald
> > 
> > 
> > Gerald has given us tremendous support at no cost for as 
> long as we've 
> > been using Embperl, that's something like 7 or 8 years now. 
>  I'm sure 
> > that's true for everyone else on this list.  Furthermore we're 
> > deriving the benefit of what appears to be a major rewrite in 
> > Embperl2.  It would be great if we could pay for the full 
> two weeks to 
> > fix Embperl2 to work in the Apache2/mod_perl environment.  
> The full cost is:
> > 
> > 8960 Euro
> > 
> > Here's a little chart for breakdown by number of partners:
> > 
> > partners   cost each
> > --------   --------
> >    2       4480 Euro
> >    3       2986 Euro
> >    4       2240 Euro
> >    5       1792 Euro
> >    6       1493 Euro
> >    7       1280 Euro
> >    8       1120 Euro
> >    9       995 Euro
> >    10      896 Euro
> >    20      448 Euro
> > 
> > (Today's exchange rate is about $0.75 per Euro)
> > 
> > iTransact is be able to participate at the 8-partner level.  Please 
> > respond to the list if your company is able to partner with us to 
> > bring Embperl along to Apache2/mod_perl.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >    Gary Shea
> >    shea@gtsdesign.com
> >    Salt Lake City,  Utah
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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