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From Aaron Johnson <>
Subject Re: What's going on with Embperl???
Date Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:59:35 GMT
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:36, Gerald Richter wrote:
> Hi all together,
> first of all I want to tell you that I have not vanished away :-)
> Second is that I will continue developing Embperl. I use it in all projects
> we do, so it's still important for me myself.
> The point why I am not doing much at the moment and why there are times when
> it takes much to long till I get time to answer mails, is that we are
> launching a product right now (If you are courious, it's a linux based
> firewall, router, vpn gateway, see htttp://, of course it
> uses Embperl for it's Webinterface) and this takes up all my time (and
> sometimes more than all :-(
> I agree that this is not good for Embperl at all. I always would have been
> happy if there are more people doing development of Embperl (Or just
> maintaining docs, website, faq etc.) . This would make many things to go on
> much faster. I don't have a problem with SourceForge, I just prefer to use
> the Apache resources. As you know CVS is on the Apache server (and it was
> there long before most of the Apache projects). If anybody likes to join the
> development team (which is currently only me :-(, it should be no problem to
> get CVS write access for more people, but as somebody already pointed out,
> before that is done, you could always send patches to the list and they will
> be integrated into Embperl. As Angus pointed out there is already abug
> tracking system on CPAN, see
> . As long as we are not
> more developers I think this it's overkill, but if you prefer to use it,
> it's there...
> So if you can do anything for Embperl, let me/us know. I would be very happy
> if Embperl is build on more shoulders than just mine.
> For getting 2.0 out of beta: I use 2.0 for a long time in all my projects
> and it is very stable, there is no reason for not to use it in production
> environment, I really should rename it to 2.0 final. The only thing I see
> is, what Neil mentioned, that there a some (small) issuses with old 1.x
> code, that might be a showstopper, when upgrading old projects.

This is not a valid enough reason in my opinion to hold off a release. 
1.x is HTML::Embperl and not Embperl.  I think the new package name
indicates there is something more in the change then just a general
update.  I have run 2.x and 1.x on the same machine with no problems (in
the later releases of 2.x).  I feel as long as it is clearly indicated
in the make process, in the readme and on the Embperl site that there
are known syntax issues between 1.x and 2.x that it OK to release.  The
user still has to change his conf file to reflect Embperl vs.
HTML::Embperl to in fact use the updated 

I have been using HTML::Embperl since the 0.2x beta releases if my
memory serves me right and I want to thank you Gerald for all your hard
work over the years for providing the community with such a great
framework and look forward to using it in the years to come.

> I would like to get these things done really soon, but I fear I will not be
> able to do much during the next few weeks :-( I really will try to get 2.0
> out of the door as soon as possible and I appreciate and help. Until 2.0 is
> out I recommend that everybody who starts a new project uses 2.0 and doesn't
> stay with 1.3.
> Gerald
> P.S. As you might know it is possible to add news, links, examples, articles
> to the Embperl website. Please use this feature to show that Embperl is
> widely used.
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