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From Stas Bekman <>
Subject [mp2] code unloading
Date Thu, 12 May 2005 05:57:51 GMT
[let's split this from the VOTE thread and have a dedicated thread]

Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
 > Stas Bekman wrote:
 >>Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
 >>>Stas Bekman wrote:
 >>>>Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
 >>>The problem I see is the lookup. How do you find all modperl_mgv * for
 >>>"Some::NameSpace"? AFAIK, they are located in modperl_handler_t's and
 >>>are buried deep into configuration structures, no ?
 >>>I can't think of an easy way to implement a lookup like this, short of
 >>>a global knoledge of all modperl_(handle|mgv)_t created.
 >>even if we had it it'd be a very slow operation to find those out.
 > Yes indeed it would be.
 >>>Am I missing something obvious ?
 >>I don't think so. Though I'd check why it does work when doing it in
 >>perl (the original way). After all that original implementation doesn't
 >>have a problem with mgvs. May be because the reloaded code gets the same
 >>addresses and in your implementation it is not?
 > That's because the Perl implementation deleted every single stash _entry_
 > one by one (CODE, SV, AV, HV, etc) directly, and left the stash itself
 > alone. This works, but it's slow and causes the annying warnings. The XS
 > implementation, by wiping entire stashes goes much quicker and avoids these
 > warnings (and a few other goodies).

so there is no way to wipe the hash, but not "wipe" it?

 >>May be there should be a mechanism that will not use mgv's in which case
 >>the xs code should be used. if the mgvs are in use the perl code is the
 >>way to go. since those who need this feature don't care about the
 >>performance this should work.
 > Yup, I am thinking:
 > ModPerl::Util::unload_package_xs()
 > ModPerl::Util::unload_package_pp()
 > and
 > ModPerl::Util::unload_package() as the user-visible, recommended one
 > that just dispatches to _pp for now, until the xs implementation can
 > be fixed (if it can)

go for it.

should probably document the availability of the _xs for the brave ones. 
After all it does work in some cases :0)

Stas Bekman            JAm_pH ------> Just Another mod_perl Hacker     mod_perl Guide --->

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