Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-perl-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90352 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2005 11:59:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2005 11:59:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 25373 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2005 11:59:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-perl-dev-archive@perl.apache.org Received: (qmail 25349 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2005 11:59:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@perl.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@perl.apache.org Received: (qmail 25332 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jan 2005 11:59:28 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of radek@karnet.pl designates 62.121.128.10 as permitted sender) Received: from relay.ceti.pl (HELO relay.ceti.pl) (62.121.128.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 03:59:23 -0800 Received: from tau8.ceti.pl (tau8.ceti.pl [62.121.128.18]) by relay.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FD6164132 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:59:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from bongo (unknown [82.139.18.36]) by tau8.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5B015C00B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:59:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:59:24 +0100 From: Radoslaw Zielinski To: dev@perl.apache.org Subject: Re: [mp2] taking a step back? Message-ID: <20050102115924.GA4651@bongo> Mail-Followup-To: dev@perl.apache.org References: <41D79582.6070406@phase-n.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41D79582.6070406@phase-n.com> Organization: independent User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam Kennedy [02-01-2005 07:32]: > Randy Kobes wrote: >> As probably with most of you, I'm getting worried with the >> tone of the discussion on the mp2 namespace problem, and the [...] > Stas, as the leader (or at least lead developer) of the project, is=20 [...] > What is causing the biggest issue for me, as someone who as a rule=20 > _never_ gets involved in these kinds of things in public, is that he is= =20 > willing to immediately and completely discount the opinions of everyone= =20 > else, whether or not they are trying to have a reasonable discussion or n= ot. > And what is SCARING the HELL out of me is that he is not even willing to= =20 > wait for a few days or weeks to have a proper discussion with those of=20 > us who _are_ reasonable most of the time. [...] You really should get off Stas here. He said clearly: do your homework. We discussed this issue (not the "whether to do it", but the "how") here not so long ago[1] ; nobody cared to comment and we failed to get to anything useful (short summary: either trading MP_INST_APACHE2 hack for a big mess or abandoning Apache::compat). Stop bitching, show the code. [1] Subject: [apr] dropping Apache2/ subdir for APR::*, November 2004. --=20 Rados=B3aw Zieli=F1ski [ GPG key: http://radek.karnet.pl/ ] --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB1+IcvesRuUOywuARAiz6AKDJukWGJR4n1NT4VJYAMxDVUMG/YgCdG6Zj DluiG1fcFH7eI1vBUwVsRvc= =kbti -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--