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From Maruan Sahyoun <sahy...@fileaffairs.de>
Subject Re: Annotations not being rendered
Date Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:00:42 GMT
Am 03.04.2014 um 11:20 schrieb Olaf Drümmer <olaflist@callassoftware.com>:

> An appearance stream is not anymore complicated than a page content stream. Given PDFBox
is about PDF, and given that the main 'feature' of PDF is representing page content, I have
difficulty seeing the issue. An appearance stream is a mini page description, placed on top
of the main page content. Not more, not less.  If a PDF fails to provide appearance streams
where there should be one, it's essentially a deficit in the PDF.

In general PDFBox can create and handle appearance streams. It doesn’t create one per default
for an annotation as an appearance stream for an annotation is optional (per PDF spec).

>> To get the annotation to display in anything other than acrobat, you actually have
to issue the draw (postscript) commands into the appearance stream (i.e. move to position,
draw line, draw text, et cetera). 

Acrobat/Reader and some other viewers have what’s called an annotation handler which can
provide a visual representation for an annotation which may even ignore the appearance definition
of the annotation. So the fact that there is something displayed inside Acrobat is because
of such handler.

> I would rephrase this: if the goal is to display an appearance where there is none, it
needs to be generated by someone. This can happen on the fly, or by transcoding the annotation
without an appearance stream into an annotation with an appearance stream. For some types
of annotations it is relatively straightforward to generate one, for others it is more difficult,
and for some it will be impossible. A fallback could be to display something visual along
the lines of "Incomplete annotation", or an "empty" symbol, maybe with a red stop sign or
something like that next to it.

As written above there is no need to transcode if the viewing application has an annotation
handler providing a visual representation.

In addition for annotations there are other properties which can be set such as borders.

AFAIK PDFBox currently ignores such properties when rendering annotations. 



> Olaf
> Am 3 Apr 2014 um 06:25 schrieb David VanderMolen <d_vandermolen_99@yahoo.com>:
>> Acrobat will display most (but not all) annotations without an /AP (appearance stream)
entry, but other pdf renderers will not.  To get the annotation to display in anything other
than acrobat, you actually have to issue the draw (postscript) commands into the appearance
stream (i.e. move to position, draw line, draw text, et cetera).  It sounds like it should
be easy, but the reverse-engineering is horribly time consuming and imprecise.  It's easier
to just specify "use acrobat"
>> DV
>> On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:56 AM, Stan Taylor <Stan.Taylor@j2.com> wrote:
>> I am using PDFBox 2.0.0 downloaded from http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/pdfbox/trunk,
PDFBox 1.8.4 downloaded from http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/pdfbox/1.8.4/pdfbox-1.8.4-src.zip
, and Adobe Reader v10.1.9 from http://adobe.com.
>> The result I am looking for is that the PDFBox app's PDFReader function be able to
display the PDF file created by the Annotation.java example provided in the PDFBox examples.
 A fix to either one would likely lead to a solution to the more project-specific problems
I am having.
>> Thanks!
>> Stan
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maruan Sahyoun [mailto:sahyoun@fileaffairs.de] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:54 PM
>> To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Annotations not being rendered
>> Hi Stan,
>> where do you get the box (Adobe Reader, PDFBox, .) ? What is the expected result
you are looking for?
>> BR
>> Maruan
>> Am 29.03.2014 um 00:12 schrieb Stan Taylor <Stan.Taylor@j2.com>:
>>> Thanks!  If it's so vital, I'm surprised that the PDFBox own Annotation example
doesn't include it... What the easiest way to set a default appearance that allows the annotations
to display?
>>> I modified Annotation.java and tried creating a default appearance like this:
>>>    PDAppearanceDictionary appearance = new PDAppearanceDictionary(new COSDictionary());
>>>    ... and then called setAppearance(appearance) on each of my PDAnnotation objects
>>> But this covers up the annotation's content with an opaque purple box.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Olaf Drümmer [mailto:olaflist@callassoftware.com] 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:40 PM
>>> To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>>> Cc: Olaf Drümmer
>>> Subject: Re: Annotations not being rendered
>>> No appearance stream means no rendered appearance, unless some process kicks
in that generates it.
>>> Adobe Reader does have the habit to fill certain gaps, for example if the appearance
stream for a highlight annotation is missing, it will simply generate one (there were versions
of Adobe Reader that even did this when there already was an appearance stream - Adobe Reader
then happily created one that didn't necessarily match the one that was actually there).
>>> Olaf
>>> Am 28 Mar 2014 um 23:00 schrieb Stan Taylor <Stan.Taylor@j2.com>:
>>>> Nope; I don't see any in PDFDebugger and programmatically, PDAnnotation.getAppearanceStream()
 and PDAnnotation.getAppearance() return null for all annotations obtained from the PDPage.
>>>> Stan
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Olaf Drümmer [mailto:olaflist@callassoftware.com] 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:48 PM
>>>> To: users@pdfbox.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Olaf Drümmer
>>>> Subject: Re: Annotations not being rendered
>>>> Do the annotations have an appearance (AP) entry?
>>>> Olaf
>>>> Am 28 Mar 2014 um 21:17 schrieb "Stan Taylor" <stantayl@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Is anyone else experience issues regarding annotations not being rendered?
  Attached here are two PDF samples created from the /examples/src/main/java/org/apache/pdfbox/examples/pdmodel/Annotation.java
example program from PDFBox 1.8.4 (stan1.pdf) and PDFBox 2.0.0 (stan2.pdf).
>>>>> Viewing these PDFs in Adobe Reader (Windows v10), I can see the annotations
fine, but the annotations don't show up when I use the PDFBox app's PDFReader feature from
either version of PDFBox.  The annotations are likewise not visible when I render the (first
and only) page to an image, via PDPage.convertToImage() in PDFBox 1.8.4 or via PDFRender.
renderImageWithDPI() in PDFBox 2.0.0.
>>>>> The original problem I was investigating was why annotations created
by another PDF package were not showing up, but now I am realizing that annotations generated
by PDFBox's own example program don't render either?!
>>>>> And ideas/recommendations?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Stan
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